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Carlos, "this small sum", the Coulombs, etc.

Jul 07, 2006 01:53 PM
by danielhcaldwell


Carlos,

Please notice that the amount mentioned by Mr. Judge is also 
characterized by him as "this small sum."

I suspect that the Coulombs were doing what they were doing 
for OTHER reasons than for "this small sum" of money.

First of all, revenge would be a very strong motivation.

Plus one should not forget what the Master K.H. had
said (months before) in trying to assess the motivations of the 
Coulomb couple:

"Mad. Coulomb is a MEDIUM & as such irresponsible for many things 
she may say or do.  At the same time she is kind and charitable.  
One must know how to act towards her to make of her a very good 
friend.   She has her own weaknesses but their bad effects can be 
minimised by exercising on her mind a moral influence by a friendly 
& kindly feeling.  Her mediumistic nature is a help in this 
direction, if proper advantage be taken of the same." caps added.
Quoted from:
http://www.blavatskyarchives.com/khhartma.htm

Also one should take into account that on April 26, 1884 (again 
months before Emma Coulomb actually contacted the Rev. Patterson) 
Master Morya wrote:

"For some-time already the woman [Coulomb] has opened communication 
--- a regular diplomatic pourparler with the enemies of the cause, 
certain padris. --- She hopes for more than 2,000 Rupees from them,
if she helps them ruining or at least injuring the Society by 
injuring the reputation of the founders....The ------ are ready to 
lay out a good sum for the ruin of the Society they hate...."
Quoted from Franz Hartmann's REPORT OF OBSERVATIONS, etc., pp. 35-36.

My understanding is that these "padris" were NOT connected with the 
Rev. Patterson.  

Much more could be written about this but I will stop here at this 
point.

Daniel
http://hpb.cc


--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline" 
<carlosaveline@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Friends, 
>  
> In September 1884, the "Christian College Magazine" of the  Free 
Church of Scotland in Madras (1)  published a collection of false 
letters ascribed to Blavatsky and slandering her.  
>  
> The material had been forged by Emma and Alexis Coulombs,  a 
couple of scoundrels nowadays highly publicized by Daniel Calwell 
and others.  
>  
> In October 9, 1884, the publication "Athenaeum and Daily News", in 
Madras, India, published this letter by W. Judge: 
>  
> To the Editor.
> Cheapness of Public Morality and the Coulombs.
>  
> SIR,    I believe I  am under no obligation to keep silence. At 
an interview,  on the Theosophical Headquarters on the 27 th day of 
Sept. ult,  in the presence of Dr. F. Hartmann, Mr. Gribble, Mr. 
Padfield, Mr. Alexander, D.K. Mavalankar, a Madras gentleman, Mr. 
Darbogen Nath, Mr. T. Subba Row, High Court Vakeel, myself and 
another person whose name escapes me, the Rev. Mr. Patterson stated 
freely, and not under the seal of confidence, that he had paid the 
Coulombs for the alleged Blavatsky letters, the sum of rupees one 
hundred and fifty, in 3 instalments first 25, second 50,  and then 
75, in all 150. Now the question arises, is the "C.C. Magazine"  so 
poor that it cannot pay Rs. 150, in one payment. Common sense and 
common reputation answer, that they very well could pay this small 
sum at once why then they break it up in this case? It must be 
either because of bargaining; or because at 
firt "public   morality" was thought to be worth Rs. 25, 
which estimate was afterwards changed twice; or because these 
amounts are only earnests (2) of what  the Coulombs may expect from 
the Missionary camps upon the success of their attack on Theosophy.  
Did the Coulombs receive this money; or are they being slandered? In 
the Oct. "C.C.M.", the Editor says he "would be likely to hear" of 
bargains with the Missionaries; he does not say that he did not 
hear.      William Q. Judge. (3) 
>  
>  
> So far, the letter. 
>  
>  
> Now, my  questions  to Daniel Caldwell, who since the 1990s has 
been the main publicist of the Coulombs, are: 
>  
> 1) How does he evaluate this amount of 150 rupees as the value for 
a  bribe?  
>  
> 2) How much a new "Coulomb" or "Soloviof"  could earn today,  by 
circulating the same lies in the Internet and in theosophical 
books?  Or would that have to be volunteer  work? 
>  
> 3)  Does Daniel  believe  that the 150 rupees' bribe payed  to 
his " historical sources", the Coulombs, was the  full price for 
their treason, or Judge was right and it was just paid as earnests?  
Does Daniel find it a fair price?  
>  
>  
> Best regards,  Carlos Cardoso Aveline. 
>  
>  
>  
> Best regards,   Carlos Cardoso Aveline 
>  
>  
>   
>  
> NOTES:
>  
> (1) A Church influenced by Calvinism. It  separated from the 
Church of Scotland in 1843, after a ten years' conflict. (See 
Encyclopaedia Britannica, 1967) 
>  
> (2) "Earnests", that is, money paid in advance to bind a contract, 
a token or assurance of something to come. 
>  
> (3) "The Coulomb Case", Theosophical History Occasional Papers, 
Volume X, California State University, 2005, 73 pp., see p. 49. 
> 
>







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