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Re: "...difficult to be a seeker of Truth if you are wedded to a particular cree

May 15, 2006 02:45 PM
by robert_b_macd

Daniel, you begin to point to some of the more interesting questions.
 As I pointed out, when I say creed, crystalized creed might be better
substituted, although in the end I suspect TRUTH is beyond any creed.

That being said, how does the "theosophical creed" differ then from
other creeds?  "..Every Western Theosophist should learn and remember,
especially those of them who would be our followers --  that in our
Brotherhood, all personalities sink into one  idea --  abstract right
and absolute practical justice for all."  Theosophists are caught
between "abstract right" and "absolute practical justice for all." 
The Master is here describing Karma, this being the one idea.  It is
up to each individual to figure out for himself what truth or
"abstract right" is, and how to act in light of this so as to be in
accord with "absolute practical justice for all."  This is no small
task.  Humanity is in one sense the cumulative expression of Karma. 
The goal is to help humanity rise above its current state through
right behavior, etc.  You cannot tell people what that is; through
experience they must figure that out for themselves.  Theosophists
therefore try to protect humanity from falling under the spell of
crystalized creeds so that they can move forward and figure these
things out. 

Theosophy is about moving forward through chaos.  Jesuits are about
crystalized truths that they rule over.  These truths (personalized
gods, etc.) are their power base.  By signing up converts they usurp
the wills of these converts and use the resulting power to their
advantage.  To refer to one of these ignorant converts as consciously
evil because they follow an evil creed is wrong.  When we refer to a
Roman Catholic or Jesuit, we are referring to those cynical indviduals
who knowingly fleece their flocks for their own advantage.  You cannot
seek absolute truth if you have adopted principles that limit you. 
Theosophy is all about identifying and understanding the limitations.
 Jesuits exploit the limitations.


--- In, "danielhcaldwell"
<danielhcaldwell@...> wrote:
> Bruce, you wrote:
> =============================================================
> It seems to be difficult to be a seeker of Truth if you are wedded
> to a particular creed, such as Roman Catholicism.  The RC or Jesuit
> must always understand his World with respect to the principles of
> his order. He tries to develop followers while the Theosophist tries
> to develop free and indepedent thinkers.  The cold and calculating
> mind of the Jesuit compared with the cool, undisturbed mind of the
> adept must appear very similar to the uninitiated.  The question
> consequently becomes: How do you recognize he who is insincere?
> How do you react to such people?  These are the practical questions
> of Universal Brotherhood.  Certainly, all is never as it appears.
> =============================================================
> I have a number of questions about what you write above but I will
> limit myself to just one question.
> You say:
> ===========================================================
> It seems to be difficult to be a seeker of Truth if you are wedded
> to a particular creed, such as Roman Catholicism.
> ===========================================================
> Well, what other "particular creeds" are there besides Roman 
> Catholicism???
> I mean would you say the same thing about being wedded to some form 
> of Protestantism, or Judaism, or Hinduism, or Buddhism, etc. etc.? 
> I would think that in all those "particular creeds" including 
> Catholicism there are sincere people who view themselves as seekers 
> of truth.  Who are we to say they are not sincere or that they are 
> not seekers of truth? 
> Daniel

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