HPB, Socrates and Julian
Apr 03, 2006 07:42 AM
by carlosaveline cardoso aveline
SOCRATES, JULIAN AND H.P.B.:
DID THE THREE "TALK TOO MUCH"?
HPB was "abandoned" by theosophists in India in 1884, during the persecution
against her. This is a fact. Yet this did not happened just because Olcott
failed or had not loyalty enough. It is more complicated than that.
Authentic chelas are allowed to think for themselves and to disagree from
their sacred Gurus. It is only Leadbeater and Besant who deny that and
suggest the opposite.
In 1884-85, some of the Indian chelas, including influential ones as Mr.
Subba Row, bitterly accused HPB of "talking too much" about the teachings
and about the Masters, and thus attracting attacks against the movement and
the Masters. They were wrong. They "forgot" what was acting under orders
and working for humanity as a whole, with a long-term perspective.
But the question of "giving too much" to the public about sacred and secret
teachigs is a difficult issue for those to try to serve mankind -- even if
they reveal the teachings under legitimate orders, as HPB most certainly
The difficulties are connected with the Mystery of Initiation of these very
souls. (No excuse here to those who abandoned HPB in 1884-85 -- only a
broader view of the context.)
Therefore, H. P. Blavatsky had her reasons to write about the karma of
teaching "too much" in the case of both Socrates and Julian the "Apostate".
And she did:
“Julian died for the same crime as Socrates. Both divulged a portion of
the solar mystery, the heliocentric system being only a part of what was
given during Initiation – one consciously (1) , the other unconsciously, the
Greek Sage never having been initiated. It was not the real solar system
that was preserved in such secrecy, but the mysteries connected with the
Sun’s constitution. Socrates was sentenced to death by earthly and worldly
judges; Julian died a violent death because the hitherto protecting hand was
withdrawn from him, and, no longer shielded by it, he was simply left to his
destiny or Karma. For the student of Occultism there is a suggestive
difference between the two kinds of death.” (2)
[And H.P.B. goes on to say that poets often unknowingly capture parts of
secrets of initiation, and include these secrets in their verses.]
HPB was not killed physically, for teaching what she taught -- but she was
killed morally, and her physical life got shorter for the persecution
In the several references HPB makes to Socrates, it is clear that he had
much in common with her and her work.
Best regards, Carlos.
(1) Emperor Julian, called “Julian the Apostate” by the Christians, was an
Initiate in the Mithraic Mysteries, the Mysteries of Mithras.
(2) “Collected Writings of H. P. Blavatsky”, TPH, Wheaton, USA, volume XIV,
1985, 733 pp., see pp. 222-223, footnote.
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