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Re: Socrates Inspired More Than Plato

Mar 29, 2006 04:33 AM
by carlosaveline cardoso aveline


I am glad to see our way of seeing things is broadly similar in these questions.


From: Cass Silva <>
Subject: Re: Theos-World Socrates Inspired More Than Plato
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 23:24:46 -0800 (PST)

Hi Carlos
I thought the phrase was "All I know is that I know nothing" which can be understood on several levels. In terms of comparing myself to HPB this phrase sits aptly with me. Socrates, IMO passed on knowledge untested or unknowable to himself. HPB refers to Socrates as the old Sage, yet never refers to Plato in this way. HPB specifically relates Socrates Daimon to his "familiar spirit". It appears that we must meet our supreme soul (the spirit) and that it does not meet us, but I have not studied this subject and may look further into it.
As far as I know the thinking apparatus must be paralysed or overcome if we are to go beyond the thinker's domain.

I was sure this was part of my posting, however, if not, HPB states categorically"Neither Pythagoras, Plator, nor any of the later more important Neo-platonists were ever mediums; for in such case they would not have been admitted to the Mysteries at all. .....shows that apart from natural "mediumship"** there has existed, from the beginning of time, a mysterious science, discussed by many, but known only to a few.

* Between the two is placed natural "mediumship", a soul clothed with imperfect matter, a ready agent for either the one or the other, and utterly dependent on its surroundings of life, constitutional heredity - physical as well as mental - and on the nature of the "spirits" it attracts around itself. A blessing or a curse, as fate will have it, unless the medium is purified of earthly dross.

This to me states that our bodies, physical, emotional and mental must be fully under our control, and when this is the case, when our sol is clothed in perfect matter, we become masters and not servants of those attracting spirits. However, I could be totally incorrect in this assumption, but it is how, I read it.

Please don't get me wrong, I adored the old Sage as HPB says and seeing Plato agreed to become his pupil, he is no slouch and I am sure destined for much greater things.

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