Re: Theos-World Bart- Strawman arguments
Mar 25, 2006 03:20 AM
by Cass Silva
Vincent <email@example.com> wrote: Bart
"Except that those pseudo-students don't really exist;"
Conjecture on your part. You cannot materially prove that something=20
doesn't exist, at least if you're using scientific methods. For=20
something must first materially exist before scientific evidence can=20
be provided for it. You're simply theorizing at this point.
"they are fictions created by the anti-Darwinists."
Again, you're thinking in stictly black and white terms. My stance=20
is not Anti-Darwinian. You have merely assumed such. There are=20
more than two types of people in the world. Not just creationists=20
and evolutionists. I suggest that you should attempt to see past=20
these two categories of people in the world.
For example, there are Christian creative evolutionists (which I am=20
not), and there are mystical evolutionists (for lack of a better=20
term) such as myself, who hold that all species of man and beast=20
descended and separated from higher spirit beings, so that they=20
might first cyclically devolve and subsequently evolve, each in=20
their own uniqueness on this earth.
"But that's the point; you were bringing up straw man arguments=20
commonly used to "disprove" Darwin."
The 'strawman arguments' which you refer to did not originate from=20
me, not was I supporting them. Nor do I believe that they disprove=20
Darwin. And 'commonly', as you have used the word, is=20
not 'always'. And you have now multiply brought up these 'strawman'=20
arguments yourself, as you phrase them, in your mere reference of=20
them, despite accusing me of doing the same. Seems like a double=20
standard to me.
You're missing the context in which the issue was raised, and are=20
merely gravitating to isolated portions of text, while failing to=20
see the whole. You're debating against an imaginary opponent that=20
you've creatively constructed in your own psyche, through the strain=20
of your own black and white interpretation.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Bart Lidofsky wrote:
> Vincent wrote:
> > Strawman arguments against who or what? I wasn't arguing=20
> > Darwin. I was arguing against those psuedo-students of Darwin=20
> > merely misrepresent him. I have never argued against Darwin=20
> > anywhere in this thread or forum as you slanderously assert.
> Except that those pseudo-students don't really exist; they=20
> created by the anti-Darwinists.
> > What I specifically said was that I don't believe that humans=20
> > evolved from apes. From that point onward, you ignorantly=20
> > that I was arguing against Darwin (when I actually am more in=20
> > agreement with Darwin himself, namely that apes and humans each=20
> > evolved from a common ancestor). Nonetheless, you instantly=20
> > projected your anti-sentiment against anything that doesn't=20
> > strictly Darwinian to you.
> But that's the point; you were bringing up straw man=20
> used to "disprove" Darwin.
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