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Re: Theos-World Carlos' intent to keep flying around this list on his carpet

Mar 20, 2006 09:36 PM
by M. Sufilight

A special musician he was...
Here are a great number of his texts online:

Idries Shah's texts are not online. A few of his texts are available online though.
The keepers of his texts, Octagon Press (and others) has another policy as far as my knowledge goes.
They have distributed most of his books to the major libraries in
the major cities in the western part af the world and elsewhere.

Idries Shah has expressed, that he do not like unnecessary idolatry.

Here is a favourite text of mine on Katinka's website:
"The bitter truth is that before man can know his own inadequacy, or the competence of another man or institution, he must first learn something which will enable him to perceive both. Note well that his perception itself is a product of right study; not of instinct or emotional attraction to the individual, nor yet of desiring to 'go it alone'. This is 'Learning How To Learn."

M. Sufilight with peace and love...

----- Original Message ----- From: "Cass Silva" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 1:30 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Carlos' intent to keep flying around this list on his carpet

Hazrat Inayan Khan is my most favourite Sufi.

"M. Sufilight" <> wrote: Yeah...

"First things first", Nasrudin said while flying on his very own carpet,
"These stories in the below might teach you to behave differently."

You see, K. H. probably do care very much for his carpet.


"A Sufi on the Order of the Naqshbandi was asked:
'Your Order's name means, literally, "The Designers". What do you design,
and what use it is?"
He said:
'We do a great deal of designing, and it most useful. Here is a parable of
one such fom.
'Unjustly imprisoned, a tinsmith was allowed to receive a rug woven by
his wife. He prostrated himself upon the rug day after day to say his
prayers, and after same time he said to his jailers:

"I am poor and without hope, and you are wretchedly paid. But I am a
tinsmith. Bring my tin and tools and I shall make small artefacts which you
can sell in the market, and we will both benefit."
'The guards agreed to this, and presently the tinsmith and they were both
making a profit, from which they bought food and comfort for themselves.
'Then, one day, when the guards went to the cell, the door was open, and he
was gone.

'Many years later, when this man's innocence had been established, the
man who had imprisoned him asked him how he had escaped, what magic he had
used. He said:
"It is a matter of design, and design within design. My wife is a weaver.
She found the man who had made the locks of the cell door, and got the
design from him. This she wove into the carpet, at the spot where my head
touched in prayer five times a day. I am a metal-worker, and this design
looked to me like the inside of a lock. I designed the plan of the artefacts
to obtain the materials to make the key - and I escaped."

'That,' said the Naqshbandi Sufi, 'is one of the ways man may make his
escape from the tyranny of his captivity"' (16, p. 176).

Teaching stories, such as the above, are tools that depend on the motivation
of the user and his or her capacity or level of skill. As understanding
increases, the tools can be used for finer and deeper work. The more one
experiences and uses them, the more remarkable they seem to be: they lend
credence to Idries Shah's claim that Sufism is a science whose boundaries
contain modern psychology but go beyond it. He states:

". . . Sufism is itself a far more advanced psychological system than any
which is yet developed in the West. Neither is this psychology Eastern in
essence, but human" (14, p. 59).

According to Shah, the initial step needed to be taken by must human
beings is to become aware of automatic pattern-thinking, the conditioned
associations and indoctrinated values that limit human perception and
receptivity. The teaching story is used for this purpose, illustrating at
one step removed, the egocentric thinking of which we are usually oblivious:


"Nasrudin was very thirsty and was happy when he saw by the roadside a
water-pipe whose outlet was bunged with a piece of wood.

Putting his open mouth near the stopper, he pulled. There was such a rush
of water that he was knocked over.

'Oho!' roared the Mulla. 'That's why they blocked you up, it is? And you
have not yet learned any sense!'" (13, p.48)."
...And there is more in the link below ...

But actually, this very beautiful tale might help one to understand
what heretical "unravelling" ideas about the Flying Carpet might create:

The theosophist or the Sufi creates a design (or an email) and waits,
watches its impact, and evaluates the impact.
Then later a new design is being created, - by some one...

- - - - - - -
Interesting place, but be warned in advance: Always help, never hurt:

M. Sufilight with an non-USA-"jesuitical" smile...and some rugrats from area
of India...

----- Original Message ----- From:
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Carlos' intent to disrupt on this list

In a message dated 3/19/2006 10:39:42 PM Central Standard Time, writes:

So they  can't stop laughing.

I swear, one of these days I'm going to unravel KH's carpet while he's
flying it!

Chuck the Heretic

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