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Re: [Mind and Brain] Re: channelling raises certain questions

Mar 19, 2006 08:42 PM
by leonmaurer

In a message dated 3/19/06 4:51:33 PM, writes:

> --- In, "glen_swift" <glenswift@...> wrote:
> >
> > The phenomena of channelling raises a number of interesting
> > questions for this discussion group, basically along two different
> > lines:
> >
> > 1) If channelling is real, and not just people pretending, then what
> > is actually happening?
> >
> > 2) Do the discourses of channels offer any possible insights into
> > the nature of consciousness?
> >
> > I don't think anyone who's had direct experience of someone
> > channelling doubts that the phenomena is real, though many who
> > haven't consider it to be a total fraud. 
> This is a great post! The suggestion I make to Glen is that there may
> be a third alternative beyond materialism and idealism. The mechanisms
> that generate consciousness in the living brain may also generate some
> kind of non-material physical wave (i.e., based on energy/information)
> that (sometimes?) continues to exist after death. In this case, it is
> not consciousness that creates physical reality, but physical reality
> that finds a way of existence of waveforms after biological death. Of
> course, quantum theory is involved in this possible phenomenon.
> I am open to this possibility, although there is no scientific proof
> for or against it.
> Alfredo Pereira Jr.
Your suggestion seems quite reasonable.   In my ABC theory, I posit that the 
universe consists of a descending series of fractally involved, coadunate but 
not consubstantial, spherical fields, within fields, within fields, in triune 
monadic iterations that stem from a spin motion, G-force or Spinergy of near 
infinite angular momentum at the primal zero-point or original "singularity."   

If this model is valid, each triple series of fields would necessarily step 
down in frequency-energy spectrum from near infinite to near zero in our 
space-time continuum at the fourth iteration inward.   This arrangement corresponds 
closely with the multidimensional hyperspace fields of string theory, M 
theory, or quantum field theory...   Although, I don't know how far they have gone 
into considering the ontology, epistemology, and, specifically, the 
electrodynamics of their postulated 6 fold hyperspace fields -- that must be, somehow, 
coenergetically linked intimately with our 3d space-time continuum and its 
fields of radiant energies, -- including our brain waves. :-) In addition, this 
model would not appear to violate any fundamental scientific laws of physics, 
such as conservation, symmetry, enthalpy, entropy, thermodynamics, QED, QM, QCD, 

Since each field is electrical in nature, information recorded as wave 
interference patterns on their surfaces could be transferred from our lowest plane 
of reality to the highest plane (longest lasting, since closer to zero-point 
time or infinite duration) by inductive resonance processes.   

Since each such field would have analogous particle effects, quantum theory 
should be applicable (with certain modifications, perhaps) on each level or 
field of consciousness... Under the assumption that consciousness, as both 
awareness and will, are functions of the absolute zero-point itself that is 
"entangled" with all zero-points throughout our configuration space.   Thus, 
accounting, not only for the non locality of consciousness, but also the possibility of 
ESP phenomena such as clairvoyance, telepathy, channeling, NDE, ASC, etc., 
etc.  This model could also add credibility to the holographic paradigm of Boeme 
and Pribram -- while extending relativity theories into each higher level of 
the fields of consciousness. It also appears to be consistent with most 
ancient Eastern and Hermetic philosophical sciences, as well as the Cosmogenesis 
disclosed in the ancient Book of Dzyan and the numerological system of the 
Chinese I-Ching.

On a far out level of thought, I can imagine this model fully explaining the 
binding of mind (as a hyperspace field) to brain (through its overall EM 
field) as well as making Chalmers "hard problem" a moot question -- since it would 
resolve to the zero-point that is entirely a separate aspect of the primal 
beginning, as is its surrounding "G-force," or "Spinergy," that is the 
fundamental source of matter.   And, thus, pure consciousness would, necessarily, be 
outside of all space and time and not subject to any objective analysis of its 
subjective functions.   Therefore the only way to know or to explain qualia is 
to experience it individually and directly. 

It appears, therefore, that the "third mechanism" you suggest could very well 
be the inductive-resonance process that allows the transfer of holographic 
information from one EM frequency spectrum level or mass-energy order to 
another, as we step up through the ascending fields of mind, memory, and other 
aspects or levels of higher consciousness... All of these levels being of one or 
another degree of substantiality.

We might say then, that those who subscribe to this theoretical "third way" 
conception could call themselves "monistic substantialists"...   </;-)>

Best wishes,

Leon Maurer

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