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Re: Theos-World Adyar's irrelevancy

Mar 16, 2006 01:40 PM
by Steven Levey

Dear Krsanna,
      You are so right, they do need help, and I hope that the subtle instilling of absolute ethics where that can be done, does just that.
      That's one of the reasons I feel that what we are going through on Theos-talk is useful. It is possible to leave a legacy of useful Theosophical thought for them. I think its obvious that the power of genuine Theosophical thought, clear, and consise, can postively effect the consciousness of the day. That and consistant, humane intentions of our own, will go along way towards a useful psychological atmosphere in which they will live their mental lives.

krsanna <> wrote:
  Steve -- I've noticed similar characteristics in the two 
generations. I hire many young students (age 18-24) and my son is 
32. Knowing how to work -- to sit down and do a job -- is one of 
the qualifications that's moved to the top of my list with 
Generation D, ages 18-24. I recently got a call for a reference on 
a guy, age 22, who worked for me last year. I honestly said that 
this guy knows how to work, and when I gave him a job he would sit 
down and do it. The prospective employers commented, "That's saying 
a lot these days." 

My 32-year-old son sounds somewhat like the individuals you describe 
in D.C. He is highly motivated for success and conscientious almost 
to a fault. Except, he grew up in the Native American tradition and 
has a grasp of cultural and philosophical matters that is rare in 
some people many years his senior. He has amazed me in this respect 
since he was an infant. In this respect, I got lucky. 

These guys may one day be our grandparents. It is they who inherit 
the condition of this world, and they deserve some help.

Best regards,

--- In, Steven Levey wrote:
> Krsanna,
> I concur with your feelings and, really. concerns about 
the world we bequeath to the "Digital" generation. It is intersting 
how their Karma is not only their actions but ours, as we leave them 
a world grossly mishandled, along with a government which is in such 
desperate need for thoughful reanimation and refocussing on human 
> One of the problems for them, and partially because they 
have been raised in a rather "instantaneous" perspective, is that 
there seems to be a difficult grasp on common sense amongst them. I 
see my daughters and their friends rather slow on the uptake 
regarding the need for relationships with depth, along with a 
frivilousness regarding continuity. And, I don't think this is just 
common to youth. They have amazing attention spans and dexterity as 
regards a gaming process, but not of the mind regarding ideals. They 
are naturally anti-sectarian, but not pro-philosophical perspective. 
They live in a natural sense of communicative wholism, but don't 
really think about its origins.
> Now I work in an odd world, so the youth in it are vastly 
different from my own. Fortunately. 
> Working at high level in DC has shown me an interesting cross 
section of very intelligent, highly motivated, mostly Catholic 
people in their 20's and 30's. Some of these actually maintain very 
high profile political offices. They are quick of mind and temper, 
and by in large, will take over from the "Baby Boomer" politicians-
Senators and Congressman. They have a powerful sense of team work 
ethic, which is bound up in Party affiliations and their 
Catholicism. They do what ther are told efficiently and ruthlessly 
(they don't wear brown shirts, but nice suits with red ties and 
bright white shirts) as they are Blackberried by their "Boss". It is 
a Jesuitical society, with huge responsibility, good money, cars and 
nice apartments in the Dupont Circle area of DC. But they are as 
deficiant of philosophical depth as my kids. So their sense of right 
and wrong will be wholly dependent upon the prevailing sense of it. 
Having said that, they are truthful to a fault, in the sense of
> incapacity to lie. Truth itself, being another issue. Go figure.
> Steve
> Electricity and magnetism are the twins of physicality. 
> Instantaneous electronic and computer capabilities changed the way 
> the world thinks. Individuals who grew up playing computers games, 
> now in their 30's, perceive the world in different terms than, for 
> instance, my father's generation. My father was born in a sod hut 
> in 1918, and the realities of the electronic world were largely 
> outside his purview of the world. 
> The problems these kids must deal with are beyond anything 
> Theosophists who set the pace for this century – Olcott, Besant, 
> Leadbeater – ever imagined. Take a look at the article below on 
> irreversible climate changes associated with the failure of Arctic 
> ice to re-form. 
> The absurdity of Besant's "Coming" is a frivolous, if not obscene, 
> concern in view of the exigencies of keeping the planet alive, 
> largely as a result of arrogant misuse and abuse of the 
> at the hands of the "old" guys. I am ashamed of the mess my 
> generation (Baby Boomer) is turning over to the Digital 
> In this environment, the National Director of Education at TSA 
> questioned, "Should Christmas be saved?" in the National Lodge's 
> first issue of their first elist. The culture is outgrowing 
> Christmas. (It's about time!!!) ONE TSA MEMBER SUGGESTED CHRISTMAS 
> begins to reject Christianized dogma, and TSA members have stepped 
> forward to save it for those who still need it. 
> I believe HPB's cyclic model will be useful in "life and death" 
> environmental issues. That's why I keep talking about cycles and 
> timewaves. I backed into Theosophy looking for anything available 
> on cycles after I had worked with the Mayan calendar more than a 
> decade. 
> Best regards,
> Krsanna
> By Steve Connor, Science Editor 
> Published: 14 March 2006 
> Sea ice in the Arctic has failed to re-form for the second 
> consecutive winter, raising fears that global warming may have 
> tipped the polar regions in to irreversible climate change far 
> sooner than predicted. 
> Satellite measurements of the area of the Arctic covered by sea 
> show that for every month this winter, the ice failed to return 
> to its long-term average rate of decline. It is the second 
> consecutive winter that the sea ice has not managed to re-form 
> enough to compensate for the unprecedented melting seen during the 
> past few summers. 
> Scientists are now convinced that Arctic sea ice is showing signs 
> both a winter and a summer decline that could indicate a major 
> acceleration in its long-term rate of disappearance. The greatest 
> fear is that an environmental "positive feedback" has kicked in, 
> where global warming melts ice which in itself causes the seas to 
> warm still further as more sunlight is absorbed by a dark ocean 
> rather than being reflected by white ice…
> Dr Serreze said that some parts of the northern hemisphere 
> experienced very low temperatures this winter, but the Arctic was 
> much warmer than normal. "Even in January, when there were 
> record low temperatures in Alaska and parts of Russia, it was 
> very warm over the Arctic Ocean," he said.
> -- In, "M K Ramadoss" wrote:
> >
> > On 3/16/06, Drpsionic@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 3/16/2006 7:35:32 AM Central Standard Time,
> > > timestar@ writes:
> > >
> > > The internet by itself has done much to make Adyar irrelevant. 
> I'm
> > > more interested in the terms of the Young Theosophists that I 
> am in
> > > trying to rescue the elder generation. The older generation 
> will
> > > disappear and return to seek truth in new cultural terms.
> > >
> > > In the
> > > rapidly becoming old days, groups and organizations were 
> necessary
> > > because the
> > > means of communication made them necessary. That may no longer 
> be
> > > the case.
> > >
> > > Chuck the Heretic
> > >
> > 
> > Amen.
> > Transportation and communication are some of the key factors 
> have
> > changed the world for good, much to the chagrin of the older 
> generation.
> > 
> > mkr
> > 
> > 
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> >
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