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Correcting "Adyar's irrelevancy and our relevancy"

Mar 16, 2006 11:58 AM
by carlosaveline cardoso aveline


This is the correct version of a sentence, in my discussion of
the theosophical organizations'  irelevancy:

"And who are ourselves, in our supreme intelligences, to declare that  such
an organization is irrelevant, and that other, whose ideas we do approve, is

Sorry!  Carlos.

From: "carlosaveline cardoso aveline" <>
Subject: Theos-World Adyar's irrelevancy and our relevancy
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:34:16 -0400






OK. Adyar is irrelevant.

What about Pasadena TS, ULT, Edmonton Theosophical Society, and Tacoma TS?
All irrelevants, too ?

Is everything irrelevant -- except us and our marvellous computers?

And who are ourselves, in our supreme intelligences, to declare that such
an organization is irrelevant, and that other, whose ideas we do approve, is

For instance, the Vatican is irrelevant, because we do not approve of the
ideas of the Pope. Or would it be more realistic to say that the Vatican is
relevant, because its mistakes are relevant? As so are nuclear weapons and

Now, let's think of reciprocity in the theosophical movement.

What about Adyar members declaring Pasadena TS irrelevant?

What about each little group and even each individual ("groups are
unnecessary") declaring others "irrelevant"?

So the ULT declares Pasadena TS irrelevant, Pasadena TS declares other
groups irrelevant, and thus we all live the principal of UNIVERSAL
BROTHERHOOD... by dclaring each other "irrelevant"?

If this is it, I agree: we are all irrelevants -- our personalities, at

Yet at the same time we can see that each leaf of grass (W. Whitman) has
its own purpose in the Universe.

Each soul, including, perhaps, those human monads associated with Adyar,
Pasadena and the E.T.S., Tacome TS, etc., are relevant, unique and
significant in a way.

Except our lower selves, who want to consider themselves extremely
important, of course.

In time, my wife and I have three dogs in our rural area house.

The dogs, whose "chief" is white and respectable Mrs. Pitchula, are
extremely relevant.

Yet each street dog abandoned in Brazilian cities is relevant too.

Best regards, yours and relevant, Carlos.

>Subject: Re: Theos-World Adyar's irrelevancy
>Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:35:38 EST
>In a message dated 3/16/2006 7:35:32 AM Central Standard Time,
> writes:
>The internet by itself has done much to make Adyar irrelevant. I'm
>more interested in the terms of the Young Theosophists that I am in
>trying to rescue the elder generation. The older generation will
>disappear and return to seek truth in new cultural terms.
>Well, as a rapidly aging theosophist, I agree. When folks my age joined
>the mid to late 70s we were the young'ns and we brought our particular
>strangeness with us. Now we are the old folks and the world is much
>When I joined the TS in 1978, there were only a few channels on broadcast
>television, VCRs were just invented, cell phones did not exist, computers
>either huge, slow and clunky or overgrown pocket calculators with a few
>thrown in.
>There was no internet as we know it, nothing digital. Communication was
>slow and required paper and postage or the telephone.
>A portable video camera kit weighed 80 pounds and shot in black and white.
>The world is much changed and the way people view their world has changed
>with it. Like everyone before us was and everyone after us will be, we are
>products of our time and we see things through the lens of that time. In
>rapidly becoming old days, groups and organizations were necessary because
>means of communication made them necessary. That may no longer be the
>Chuck the Heretic
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