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Mar 15, 2006 05:36 AM
by carlosaveline cardoso aveline


I don't disagree but I couldn't understand what exactly your point is, below.

My reason for defending what I consider to be the truth about HPB's work is that her work is useful to, and BADLY NEEDED BY, humanity right now.

There is no other practical reason for that -- of which I can remember right now.

And I am open to examine new evidences, as I am also examining the false ideas and sometimes the utter lies about HPB's work.

Best regards, Carlos.

From: Cass Silva <>
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: WHEN TRUTH IS A LIE
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:05:52 -0800 (PST)

Carlos, Vladmimir
Didn't someone post an article by HPB on the mind which stated that we may believe at a particular point in time that our ideas are "truths" but in fact as we are continually learning our ideas are continually changing, and those once thought of truths in fact become untruths in hindsight. The problem arises when we embrace a particular idea as the absolute truth and refuse to let go of the idea that once what I thought was the truth was but a partial glimmer of absolute truth.

My solution for this is to take the attitude that all truths are "definite maybe's" until I am proved ignorant in abscentia.

Although Steve's opinion is that Devachan is a subjective existence, which I acknowledge, I am of the opinion that any idea we take with us will be mulled over for centuries, and as there are masters incarnate there are masters disincarnate who are available in devachan to direct and assist us. I am quite certain that a disincarnate master, a plato, etc would not disturb anyone who is mulling over whether HPB was a charletan or not!


carlosaveline cardoso aveline <> wrote:


Thanks (see below).

I try not to be merciless with people.

But I believe in an open and frank debate.

One of the lessons we have to learn-and-teach to each other in the
theosophical movement is that
we are NOT our ideas. It is a lesson of detachment, or vairagya. This is a
quality of fundamental importance for truth-seekers.

People who think they are their ideas will get "personally offended "
whenever their ideas are
questioned, or when they are shown to be false.

Now, is this "scholarly"?

Best regards, Carlos.

>From: Vladimir
>To: carlosaveline cardoso aveline
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Why Does Paul Unsubscribe?
>Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:34:02 +0300
>Monday, March 13, 2006, 9:39:16 PM, carlosaveline wrote:
> > Once confronted with his own words, and with the completely
> > groundless condition of his "veiled" accusations against HPB,
> > instead of facing the facts, Paul Johnson tries to adopt the
> > position of a poor defenceless victim -- and gets away from the
> > debate.
>Oh, c'mon, have mercy on your brother, lest he deserts you forever
>leaving us wandering about in woe and despair longing for his
>enlightening and mind-widening maybes and whatifs.
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