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Re: Theos-World Shooting messengers vs producing the goods

Mar 12, 2006 08:37 AM
by M. Sufilight


On "Watermelons".
One of our friends came up with this one.
It may give some background info on parts of where it all went wrong
with the "watermelons".


A "theosophical" farmer, (at least he himself thought that he was one), in the country
has a watermelon patch, and upon inspection he discovers that some of the local kids
have been helping themselves to a feast. The farmer thinks of ways to discourage this
profit-eating situation, and he puts up a sign that reads:
"WARNING! One of these watermelons contains cyanide poisen!"

He smiled smugly as he watched the kids run off the next night without eating any
of his melons. The farmer returned to the watermelon patch a week later to discover
that none of the watermelons have been eaten, but finds another sign that reads:

- - - - - - -

The Crawling of the Rugrats
Rugrats episode. Line spoken by the character of Lil DeVille
"Libraries is fun! They got lots of tables to crawl under."

Kids are not following ordinary thought-patterns. :-)

M. Sufilight with some disturbances...and a huge smile...

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Meredith" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Shooting messengers vs producing the goods

Once upon a time there was a man who traveled from his own country  into
the world known as the Land of Theosophists.
He saw a number of people running in terror from a library where they
had been trying to Study Theosophy.  "There is a Heretic in that
library," they told him.  He looked, and saw that it was a scholarly

He offered to kill the "Heretic" for them.  When he had finished
"shooting the messenger,"  he declared the body of work that remained
anathema and burned the books.  Seeing his skill at killing and burning,
the people were sorely afraid and cried out, "he will kill us and burn
our books next unless we get rid of him."  But they were weak and so
they lived and died in their own fear doing as the stranger told them.

It so happened that at another time another man also wandered into the
Land of Theosophists and the same thing started to happen to him.  But,
instead of offering to kill the "heretic," he told them they were living
in relative illusion and he went into the library and studied  with the
heretic.  No one was killed and no books were burned.   By his bold
example he taught them the basic fact which would enable them not only
to conquer their fear of "heretics"  but also their illusions about
truth and heresy.  This enabled them to  live  at  peace with all
beings  in  the Land of Theosophists.

Morten -  yes I know you care.  You know that I do care, too.  How are
the "rugrats" these days?



M. Sufilight wrote:
Hallo all,

My views are:

You wrote:
"It is disturbing to read the "shoot the messenger" postings directed at
Johnson, "

What postings are You talking about?
And what is so disturbing about them?

Perhaps it is the following issue you are talking about.
In the Land of Fools - alias the "Ugly melon monster"

And, Let us also remember this:
It is also a fact, that Some persons are way too sensitive.
They observe attacks were there are none. The feel hate, were there are
The ASSUME a whole lot - based on no solid foundation.
Some people sometimes think, that they are either suffering from stress or
are hysterical or have psychological problems of
one or the other kind. Perhaps of a scholary kind.

M. Sufilight with peace and love...

----- Original Message ----- From: <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 7:30 AM
Subject: Theos-World Shooting messengers vs producing the goods

It is disturbing to read the "shoot the messenger" postings directed at Paul
Johnson, but it is probably suggestive of the intellectual decline in the
Theosophical world which (ironically, given the other "pet hates" of most of
Paul's critics) began with the Leadbeater ascendancy. It requires no more
a systematic reading of "The Theosophist" from its beginnings to the
post-Blavatsky period to observe the decline in the intellectual standard of
the journal. Under Besant is grew in size and diminished in quality.

I am not a devotee of Blavatsky, although I regard her as a genius. Nor am I
authority on her life and work. I do, however, know something about the
researching and writing of history and biography. Having read Paul's work
manuscript to published form, I remain unconvinced by the hypotheses he
advances regarding the "Masters". But that I am not so convinced does not
I question his research methodology, his sheer hard work in research or the
significance of his contribution to Theosophical history.

Assuming that Paul has got it all wrong, totally misrepresents Blavatsky,
perhaps makes it all up or leaves out significant material: where is the
equivalently scholarly Theosophical response? Indeed, where is one single
scholarly - or honest - Theosophical study of biography or history from
any of the existing Theosophical groups? Relatively recent publications -
Mills on the TS in America to Cranston on Blavatsky - are, at best, public
relations brochures, and at worst dishonest distortions in which the
facts are omitted or misrepresented.

Where is the fully documented, unexpurgated, reasonably argued and properly
documented work presenting the Theosophical view of, for example, the life
Blavatsky or the history of Theosophy? And, if there is no such work, how is
the deficit to be explained? Intellectual incompetence? Lack of anyone with
ability to do scholarly research? Fundamental incapacity for honesty? Simple
laziness? The material is all there (albeit much of it locked away from any
objective scholarly access, which raises other significant questions).

It is obviously easier to shoot messengers - to denounce Meade and Johnson
actually did some research, put their own time and effort and money into
for something like the facts, however critical I may be of the results -
than to
actually compete with them.

I think that a serious, scholarly biography of Blavatsky (and I don't think
Meade accomplished that, but she's worthy of a Nobel Prize compared with the
shoddy hagiography produced by Cranston) or an equally scholarly study of
foundation of the Theosophical Society (and I don't think Johnson
that, but compared to his in-house competitors his name must be engraved on
Oscar) would make for absolutely remarkable reading. She was a woman of such
brilliance - and such eccentricity - that she is worthy of something of
equivalent brilliance and imagination. I only wish I was capable of writing

So - a challenge to the Theosophists who devote their time to shooting at
(or, for that matter, me!): there is an appropriate Australianism - put up
shut up. If you can compete, withdraw from the race.

Dr Gregory Tillett

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