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Re: Theos-World Tacoma's membership dilemma

Mar 11, 2006 02:30 PM
by M K Ramadoss

Thanks for bringing uptodate what you are doing. I recall there was a very
active theosophist in your area. If I find his name I will post it here and
many you will find one more person who is seriously interested in studying

It is not uncommon to find people showing up to "theosophical" meeting/study
groups with their own agenda and try to recruit individuals for their own
line of study/work or whatever.

There are also ignorant ones who may be contacting with strange requests
such as how to become a certified Adept as if one can pay a fee and get a
certificate certifying the individual as an Adept like the diploma mills!
Dont be surprised.


On 3/10/06, krsanna <> wrote:
> John wrote:  "When I finally actually talked to one of them on the
> phone they wouldn't give an address or any information about how a new
> member might join them. This sure was very strange to me, but now
> maybe I begin to understand how stifled and scared the membership
> might have become internal to their knowledge and how it become the
> icy cold clammy hand of death upon the growth at grass roots level of
> things. Perhaps a special Poll is necessary and questions that are
> pointedly directly configured to determine what fears are held against
> acceptance of new members that might place them in a position similar
> or same to the Tacoma Lodge."
> As regards the Tacoma Lodge, TSA added people to the Lodge' roster of
> which the Tacoma Lodge had no knowledge.  A group of any kind tends to
> develop its own identity, derived from individuals attracted to it.
> By getting to know an individual then voting to make that person a
> member gives both the individual and the lodge a chance to get to know
> each other.
> In the early days, I believe lodges selected at least one object as
> its focus.  Not all lodges elected to work on the same objects, and
> various lodges developed differently.
> In the case of one person that TSA added to Tacoma's roster, I was
> told he was a spiritualist who wanted to use the lodge to give
> spiritualist lectures.  He had little knowledge of theosophy, and may
> not have been interested in it in view of his proclaimed success with
> spiritualism.  Members of the lodge explained that they were not a
> spiritualist center and did not want to be used as one.  There's a
> spiritualist center near Tacoma that would be more appropriate to his
> interests.
> I have similar reasons for not making my study group in Montana open
> to everyone who calls me in the middle of the night.  When I realized
> how voluminous Blavatsky's writing were and how much I liked her, I
> started a study group with the explicit purpose of studying "The
> Secret Doctrine."  A number of people were invited by word of mouth.
> What showed up in my home was a collection of people, of which many
> tended to use the study group as a gathering to hawk their own
> believes and methods.
> These people met in my home at my expense and proceeded to compete for
> attention.  One woman introduced herself as a healer and repeatedly
> went back to one visual image of seeing a tiger spinning in a
> whirlwind when she healed.  She explained that she had not completed
> high school and did not believe she would be able to study "The Secret
> Doctrine," much less write a 2-page paper each month on the lessons.
> Another woman believed the spinning tiger healer was a phony and
> called her an embarrassment to Reike healing methods.  She could easly
> have done the study of "The Secret Doctrine," but was always busy with
> other things.  She attended the meetings but was not able to discuss
> the book, because she hadn't read it.
> So much time was spent competing for righteousness that little study
> of "The Secret Doctrine" was accomplished.  It seemed obvious that we
> could not discuss theosophy until we knew something about it, and "The
> Secret Doctrine" was the place to begin.
> When I put my foot down and said essentially what I have said on this
> list.  Psychics, saints and psychotics have been hearing voices since
> the beginning of time.  The trick is to get them to tell you the
> truth.  The study group needed to focus on the study we had all agreed
> on in the beginning.
> The spinning tiger lady and her friend were so offended by accusations
> of being a phony healer that they stopped coming.  The the phony
> healer accuser stopped coming.  Then her friend stopped coming.  The
> few who were left wanted to study "The Secret Doctrine," and we began
> to make headway.
> When people call me now, I make it clear that we are a study group.
> We study and use dictionaries.  If a person wants to work with us on
> that basis, they are welcome.  I have never turned away anyone who
> wanted to work on those terms.  This does not mean that we are
> entirely intellectual with no interest in the hidden powers.
> We decided to add energy work to our meetings, because one of the
> women had never heard of anything like that.  We used tuning forks the
> first time we worked with her, with the idea of demonstrating subtle
> energy functions.  When we were done, the woman began reading
> something we were talking about then realized she wasn't wearing her
> glasses.  She could see near and far without glasses for months.
> About 4 months later then mentioned that she had started needing her
> glasses again.
> She went home and told her husband we had tuned up her chakras, a new
> term for her.  She had so much energy that started cleaning house and
> singing.  Her husband later asked, "What did they tune up?"  She
> explained chakras as she had learned about them that day.
> We continue to do pragmatic work with the principles we study in "The
> Secret Doctrine," whenever possible. Over the last year, the "chakra
> tuning" had has confided several times that Theosophy is what she's
> really looking for.  She has become a Theosophist.
> I don't turn my time, energy, and home over to anyone who walks in the
> door and wants an audience.  Our study group has a focus, and we work
> with that focus.  Reike practioners are many, and they should work in
> centers that invite that focus.
> Best regards,
> Krsanna
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