Get the facts -Tacoma Lodge Resists
Mar 11, 2006 10:14 AM
I talked to John Scott at the Tacoma Lodge last night, Friday, to
verify the information I posted on this list. (John wants to join
the list too, but must first deal with a small Yahoo challenge.)
Is there anyway to know if TSA financed the lawsuit? was my first
question. John recently talked to one of the complainants in the
suit, and she told him that TSA paid for the legal action. A sweet
elderly lady, she denied suing John. She had not realized that the
papers she signed was a legal action. As a party to the lawsuit,
she will be called as a witness.
What is the interest of each person participating in the suit? was
my second question. After some discussion, John mentioned that he
doesn't know how the five individuals were brought together,
because, to his knowledge, some did not know each other. The TSA
may have gotten the complainants together.
My (Krsanna's) observation, after reviewing a box of correspondence
and documents associated with the suit, is that action with the TSA
stepped up after Jeffrey Forth sent a roster of individuals the TSA
listed as members of the Tacoma Lodge in 2005. When John asked
Jeffrey to remove the names of several individuals, serious foreplay
ensued in summer 2005.
There had been serious discussion about the necessity of all Tacoma
Lodge members belonging to the TSA in previous months. In early
2005, John was attempting to get along with the TSA. His request
that Jeffrey Forth remove names of the TSA members who did not
belong to the Tacoma Lodge ignited the Apocalypse on his front
porch. (An event was staged on the Lodge's front porch that I am
not at liberty to discuss until after the trial.)
The TSA moved forward to finance a lawsuit against the officers of
the Lodge, he believes, at least partially based on reports given to
the TSA by Linda, the woman sitting across from Rudy Don in the
October 22, 2005 meeting. Since some of those reports are
demonstrably inaccurate, the TSA could not possibly have verified
them. Instead, TSA may have accepted unverified reports that were
convenient for the TSA to pursue as a vehicle for a lawsuit.
As an example of Linda's observational skills, John Scott said she
once produced a set of minutes for a Lodge meeting, when she served
as secretary pro temp for a few months, that portrayed the Tacoma
Lodge as a Nazi organization. Those who had been present at the
meeting asked her where she had gotten that idea. Linda had
extrapolated the the notion that the Lodge is a Nazi association
from a discusson about Hitler using the reversed swastika and rumors
about Hitler's occult interests in which the Tacoma Lodge was not
mentioned. The discussion had taken place at the Lodge.
The Lodge voted to remove Linda from her pro temp secretarial
position and later asked her to leave after she loudly and
repeatedly disrupted meetings. Her behavior at the 10/22/05 with
Betty Bland prompted TSA members to guide Linda away from the
table. That was a mild display compared to other harrassment in
which Linda engaged. This Linda is undoubtedly a "disaffected"
member that Betty Bland mentions.
In Linda's case, the question is whether the Lodge has the right to
revoke an individual's membership. The TSA reserves the right to
revoke memberships, I believe.
Linda is potentially a fine witness for the defense at trial.
John Scott just sent an email about the Lodge's position on
membership, and I posted it to the list.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Steven Levey <sallev1@...> wrote:
> The problem, as I see it, re: Tacoma and the TSA, is that
the TSA has become so politcally motivated that this is what
determines their action regarding the existence of other Lodges.
This really corporate behavior on the part of TSA, to me, is the
problem. Theosophy as a philosophy and movement, standing for
Brotherhood as it was intended by definition, is therefore being
tarnished in this kind of trial. In other words, if Tacoma, as an
entity in itself wants to do and be what they are, this should have
nothing to do with TSA. Even if the Tacoma Lodge became a foolish
and non-theosophically oriented group of anti-HPB folks, they still
have the right afforded to all human beings to be that. Yes, the TSA
can write them off as no longer under the TSA umbrella, so to speak.
But so what and how hypocrital. The TSA has shown itself to be run
by particularly non-theosophically minded folks, and in that sense
no longer represent theosophical thought in their own actions. Yes,
> is the thought of one student, but it is how I feel, after
following this from the beginning.
> Bart Lidofsky <bartl@...> wrote:
> krsanna wrote:
> > If you are interested in more information about this case, I
> > you do what the "Aquarian Theosophist" did. Make written
> > inquirities. It saves much speculation.
> Except that I am very much aware of the history that Rodolpho Don
> with the Theosophical Society in America. He published an early
> (which, by the way, I frequently used as an example of an
> site). John Algeo had two major problems with it, however. The
> that it represented itself as the official website of the
> Society in America. The second was that it revealed rather
> certain information about the TSA which could be used to help in a
> hostile takeover. He requested that Rodolpho put in a statement
> site was not the official site of the TSA, and also pointed out
> posting the fiscal information was probably a bad idea, but did
> as far as requesting its removal. Rodolpho was furious, and
> that any member of the TSA was entitled to speak for the entire
> organization, and posted John's rather polite letter in lieu of
> in the simple disclaimer that John asked for. As such, I find
> to be a highly prejudiced source.
> According to Wheaton, the lawsuit has to do with financial
> improprieties, and violation of the organization's publicly filed
> on the part of its officers.
> One thing that I find interesting is Rodolpho's accusation that
> intends to keep the resources for itself. I recall a time when
> had published a new version of the bylaws which would have
property of a
> dissolved lodge revert to Wheaton. It was pointed out that the key
> language that required that the resources stay in the area of the
> and not be moved, was no longer there. All sorts of conspiracies
> imagined. As then chairman of the bylaws committee of the New York
> Theosophical Society I gave John Algeo a call. According to him,
> was the first he had heard of this, that it was entirely
> and that had I called 48 hours later, there would not have been
> time to fix the wording. As it was, there was enough time, and the
> wording was changed. But what impressed me was that, for all the
> complaining, there was so much faith that the leadership of the
> the embodiment of evil that nobody thought to actually try to fix
> This is not to say that the TSA board has not taken numerous
> over the years to keep its oligarchical status (notably taking the
> regional districts and combining them into 3, as well as de-
> individual lodge membership in favor of member-at-large
> well as setting up a pseudo "National Lodge"). But it is to say
> will take any representation of them as the embodiment of evil
> grain of salt.
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