Re: Theos-World P. Johnson, Greenpeace & Freud (reply to Erica)
Mar 10, 2006 07:46 AM
As always, I appreciate your comments. Perhaps all this is a
learning experience for everyone here, as the issues of trolls,
stalkers, etc. have probably gone unaddressed for too long. You
> I'm sorry to see that you are considering permanently unsubbing.
You provide a very interesting, very well-expressed, and often quite
> informative aspect of our common human reality.
Thank you. I was especially looking forward to discussion about my
current reading: Art Magic and Ghost Land. It was a huge oversight
for me not to have read them long ago. These books came out in the
very first year of the TS's existence, officially authored by one of
the Founders, Emma Hardinge Britten, but stated by her to have been
actually written by one "Chevalier Louis" who preferred to remain
anonymous. As with HPB, skeptics long assumed that Emma simply made
up her adept sponsor. Unlike HPB with Isis or the SD, with these
books Emma didn't write them with assistance of her adept (it seems)
but he actually wrote them in toto. Have ordered Robert Mathiesen's
The Two Worlds of Emma Hardinge Britten to see what evidence led him
to ID "Louis" as Baron Ernest de Bunsen. Here we have another angle
on adept sponsorship of the emerging TS, particularly of interest to
me since I joined the Church of Light which derives in part from
> Nothing stays the same except change. Negative forces, clothed in
> human form, do their separative work and move on.
There does seem to have been a strong contrast between forces of
integration and disintegration in the Movement, all the way back to
its beginnings. HPB and Olcott were constantly drawing in new kinds
of members and expanding the range of the TS, which was integrative,
but feuds and stormy exits go all the way back to the beginnings
also. Which suggests that the November 17 natal chart has some
relevance although it's not the only one to consider.
> If we are strongly attacked, we may take it as evidence that we are
> doing something
> right. But it's lonely being the one who is trying sincerely and is
> therefor constantly the target of the slings and arrows of those who
> wish to destroy.
As with the Muslim cartoon rioters, the destructiveness is framed in
terms of protecting someone or defending something. But to anyone
who isn't completely bound up in the belief system being "protected"
by attacks on "enemies," the nature of the energies is obvious.
> Fortunately there are more or those who try and continue to try to
do the right thing than it may appear. If these were not in the
> majority, however silent and even meek, I doubt humanity would
Precisely so. There has never been any doubt in my mind that the
majority of theos-talk listmembers (mostly lurkers) and the majority
of members of all Theosophical organizations, are far more fraternal
in attitude than those who grab megaphones and shout denunciations.
(It has occurred to me that theos-shout or theos-attack might often
be more appropriate than theos-talk as a descriptor of what goes on
> Don't give up. Don't desert the field. Retire for a time if you
need to, but take a lesson from all this.
Even in ten days offline I got caught up with my writing project so
there is no need to unsub because of that. I suppose the main lesson
is "forgive them for they know not what they do"-- a lot easier in
the present case than in another recent one.
Perhaps it has to do with
> personal involvement, or reactiveness. It is said to be a mark of
our progress when we can endure irritating people with equanimity.
And perhaps a mark of retrogression when we become more irritable.
> Whatever you do, I wish you joy and peace of mind and heart,
It's a beautiful warm weekend, the first we've had, so for a few days
your wish will be granted :) I return your good wishes.
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