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Krishnamurti & The Universe

Mar 07, 2006 12:38 PM
by carlosaveline cardoso aveline




Dear Cass,

Yet the Advaita system teachs the seven principles/ levels of consciousness pretty much as HPB did (not a coincidence), while Krishnamurti never understood, much less taught the seven principles.

For instance, Ramana Maharshi taught them in the 20th century.

Seven principles are essential, as by understanding them you have the key of the correlation between the micro (a human individual) and the macro (solar system and the universe).

Krishnamurti was rather shallow with his doctrine according to which the "I" is bad.

The importance of the correlation man/universe explains why studying the "Secret Doctrine".
It is a form of Jnana Yoga.

We are a summary of the universe, and the cosmos is an amplified picture of each one of us.

A mirror of one's soul.


Best regards, Carlos.







From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Krishnamurtian Dogma?
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 19:16:24 -0800 (PST)

I tend to agree with Morten, in that Krishnamurti's latter teachings were the recycling of the Advaita system. However, I believe, in the early days he did contribute towards humanity in exposing the emotional baggage that we carry with us, and how important it is to recognize this, without judgement, in order to see ourselves as we are. I certainly got much out of the First and Last Freedom.

Cass

carlosaveline cardoso aveline <carlosaveline@hotmail.com> wrote:

Dear Cass,

I know next to nothing about Gurdgieff.

But a long standing leader of the Adyar Society gave me an image to define
Krishnamurti with few words: he is like the typical Indian Swami, who goes
about hammering one sole point, surrounded by his own unconditional
supporters and worshippers. The main role of these followers is to
endlessly repeat the Swami's words, while they try to hipnotize themselves
and others with these same unchanging words/ideas.


Best regards.


>From: Cass Silva
>Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Krishnamurtian Dogma?
>Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 20:27:19 -0800 (PST)
>
>Perhaps rather than creating his own dogma, it was created around him.
>Same thing with Gurdgieff???
>Cass
>
>carlosaveline cardoso aveline wrote:
>
>Cass,
>
>Yet he created his own Krishhamurtian dogma.
>Krishnamurtians usually don't read authors other than him.
>They are usually not open to debate -- at least some of them.
>Not all, of course.
>
>Best -- carlos.
>
>
>
> >From: Cass Silva
> >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: Theos-World RE: Esoteric School
> >Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 16:42:17 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >It appears that Krishnamurti denied the necessity for a dogmatised
>"school
> >of thought" around his system.
> >Cass
> >
> >carlosaveline cardoso aveline wrote:
> >Damian,]
> >
> >
> >I guess Gregory has given a thorough answer to the question.
> >
> >Comparatively, in the Adyar Society the Esoteric School continued, yet
>the
> >fancies about outer contacts with the Masters were quietly dropped rom
> >1953,
> >except for Geoffrey Hodson in Australia, a rather national phenomenon,
>or
> >at
> >least a phenomenon with poor international dimension.
> >
> >J. Krishnamurti, very influential with regard to Radha Burnier, wanted
>the
> >E. S. Adyar to
> >be closed (there is at least one public source for that, Mary Lutyens).
> >Yet
> >he did
> >not have that.
> >
> >
> >Best regards, Carlos.
> >
> > >From: D P
> > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: Theos-World Pasadena Esoteric School
> > >Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 21:43:57 +0100 (CET)
> > >
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