Re: Theos-World Lidofsky: A teacher compares George to Adolf
Mar 05, 2006 09:35 PM
by Cass Silva
>From another group:
Each year I am hired to go to Washington DC,with the eighth grade
class from Clinton WI.where I grew up,to videotape their trip.I
greatly enjoy visiting our nations capitol,and each year I take some
special memories back with me.This trip was especially memorable.
On the last night of our trip,we stopped at the Iwo Jima memorial.
This memorial is the largest bronze statue in the world and depicts
one of the most famous photographs in history-that of the six brave
soldiers raising the American Flag at the top of a rocky hill on the
island of Iwo Jima,Japan,during WW II.
Over one hundred students and chaperones piled off the buses and
headed towards the memorial.I noticed a solitary figure at the base
of the statue,and as I got closer he asked,Where are you guys from?
I told him that we were from Wisconsin.Hey,I'm a cheese head too!
Come gather around,Cheese heads,and I will tell you a story.
James Bradley just happened to be in Washington DC,to speak at the
memorial the following day.He was there that night to say good night
to his dad,who has since passed away.He was just about to leave when
he saw the buses pull up.I videotaped him as he spoke to us,and
received his permission to share what he said from my videotape.It
is one thing to tour the incredible monuments filled with history in
Washington DC,but its quite another to get the kind of insight we
received that night.
When all had gathered around,he reverently began
to speak.Here are his words spoken that night.
"My name is James Bradley and I'm from Antigo, Wisconsin. My dad is
on that statue, and I just wrote a book called "Flags of Our
Fathers". It is the story of the six boys you see behind me.
"Six boys raised the flag. The first guy putting the pole in the
ground is Harlon Block. Harlon was an all-state football player. He
enlisted in the Marine Corps with all the senior members of his
football team. They were off to play another type of game. A game
called "War." But it didn't turn out to be a game.
Harlon,at the age of 21,died with his intestines in his hands.I dont
say that to gross you out,I say that because there are generals who
stand in front of this statue and talk about the glory of war.You
guys need to know that most of the boys in Iwo Jima were 17,18,and
19 years old.
He pointed to the statue-"You see this next guy? That's Rene Gagnon
from New Hampshire. If you took Rene's helmet off at the moment this
photo was taken and looked in the webbing of that helmet, you would
find a photograph... a photograph of his girlfriend. Rene put that
in there for protection because he was scared. He was 18 years old.
Boys won the battle of Iwo Jima. Boys. Not old men.
"The next guy here, the third guy in this tableau, was Sergeant Mike
Strank. Mike is my hero. He was the hero of all these guys. They
called him the "old man" because he was so old. He was already 24.
When Mike would motivate his boys in training camp, he didn't
say, 'Let's go kill some Japanese' or 'Let's die for our country.'
He knew he was talking to little boys. Instead he would say, 'You do
what I say, and I'll get you home to your mothers.'
"The last guy on this side of the statue is Ira Hayes, a Pima Indian
from Arizona. Ira Hayes walked off Iwo Jima. He went into the White
House with my dad. President Truman told him, 'You're a hero.' He
told reporters, 'How can I feel like a hero when 250 of my buddies
hit the island with me and only 27 of us walked off alive?' So you
take your class at school, 250 of you spending a year together
having fun, doing everything together. Then all 250 of you hit the
beach, but only 27 of your classmates walk off alive. That was Ira
Hayes. He had images of horror in his mind. Ira Hayes died dead
drunk, face down at the age of 32 ... ten years after this picture
"The next guy, going around the statue, is Franklin Sousley from
Hilltop, Kentucky. A fun-lovin' hillbilly boy. His best friend, who
is now 70, told me, 'Yeah, you know, we took two cows up on the
porch of the Hilltop General Store. Then we strung wire across the
stairs so the cows couldn't get down. Then we fed them Epsom salts.
Yes, he was a fun-lovin' hillbilly boy. Franklin died on Iwo Jima at
the age of 19. When the telegram came to tell his mother that he
was dead, it went to the Hilltop General Store. A barefoot boy ran
that telegram up to his mother's farm. The neighbors could hear her
scream all night and into the morning. The neighbors lived a quarter
of a mile away.
"The next guy, as we continue to go around the statue, is my dad,
John Bradley from Antigo, Wisconsin, where I was raised. My dad
lived until 1994, but he would never give interviews. When Walter
Cronkite's producers, or the New York Times would call, we were
trained as little kids to say, 'No, I'm sorry, sir, my dad's not
here. He is in Canada fishing. No, there is no phone there, sir. No,
we don't know when he is coming back.' My dad never fished or even
went to Canada. Usually, he was sitting there right at the table
eating his Campbell's soup. But we had to tell the press that he was
out fishing. He didn't want to talk to the press.
"You see, my dad didn't see himself as a hero. Everyone thinks these
guys are heroes, 'cause they are in a photo and on a monument. My
dad knew better. He was a medic. John Bradley from Wisconsin was a
caregiver. In Iwo Jima he probably held over 200 boys as they died.
And when boys died in Iwo Jima, they writhed and screamed in pain.
"When I was a little boy, my third grade teacher told me that my dad
was a hero. When I went home and told my dad that, he looked at me
and said, 'I want you always to remember that the heroes of Iwo Jima
are the guys who did not come back. Did NOT come back.'
"So that's the story about six nice young boys. Three died on Iwo
Jima, and three came back as national heroes. Overall, 7,000 boys
died on Iwo Jima in the worst battle in the history of the Marine
Corps. My voice is giving out, so I will end here. Thank you for
Suddenly, the monument wasn't just a big old piece of metal with a
flag sticking out of the top It came to life before our eyes with
the heartfelt words of a son who did indeed have a father who was a
hero. Maybe not a hero for the reasons most people would believe,
but a hero nonetheless.
Let us never forget from the Revolutionary War to the current War on
Terrorism and all the wars in-between that sacrifice was made for
our freedom. Remember to pray for this great country of ours and
also pray for those still in murderous unrest around the world. STOP
and thank God for being alive and being free at someone else's
Everyday that you wake up free,
its going to be a great day.
Please pass this along to all.
You can tell 'em you wrote it,
just as long as you pass it on.
krsanna <email@example.com> wrote: 1. The example is "Hitler's Second Book: The Unpublished Sequel to
Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler" available at Amazon.com, first published
in English in 2003. The manuscript was tied up in legal and
academic research for decades. The most recent example of America's
dealings with Native Americans is the Eloise Cobell case against the
U.S. that has been in federal court for several years. You can
Google "Cobell vs" to find it. The Cobell case represents long-
standing federal policy in dealing with Indians, that is now being
staunchly questioned in the courts. In 2002, a federal judge held
employees of the Department of the Interior in contempt of court for
repeatedly refusing to account for their handling of Indians in
cases as recent as 1990.
The behavior questioned in the Cobell case is mild compared to early
instances of genocide under the guidance of Andrew Jackson. You
didn't ask me about what Andrew Jackson did, but you could start
with Supreme Court rulings in the early 19th century which declared
the land grab that Jackson orchestrated illegal. Jackson had the
army and conducted blatant genocide to accomplish his desires,
knowing full well the illegality of his actions. Things got worse
for Indians from that time.
2. Of course I looked to find Theosophical work in the Civil Rights
Movement. I didn't have to look far to find Gandhi's involvement in
India's independence and Nehru's assistance to Tibet.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Bart Lidofsky wrote:
> krsanna wrote:
> > Amen! Americans rarely acknowledge that America was Hitler's
> > inspiration for confining and eliminating inferior races, and
> > he wrote about how well America had handled American Indians by
> > isolating them on "federal reservations," that were often as
> > as Hitler's concentration camps.
> Can you give ONE example of this?
> > American President Andrew Jackson
> > pioneered biological warfare by infecting blankets with
> > rounding up Indian children, women and men at gunpoint in the
> > of the winter and giving them the smallpox infected blankets.
> The French pioneered it during the French and Indian war.
> documentation that Andrew Jackson even used it.
> > American Indians do not have immunity to childhood diseases
> > in Europe, i.e., measles and smallpox. This lack of immunity is
> > part of American Indian genetics and America's government used
> > exterminate the Indians who had legal claims to their
> Can you document this, or are you making this up, as well?
> > inferiors was still practiced in America during World War II.
> > of the first things I noticed about theosophical hypocracies was
> > that I have never once seen a single comment in theosophical
> > literature about the Civil Rights Movement that Rosa Parks began
> > 1954 when she refused to give up her seat to a White man.
> Have you looked?
> > Why didn't an organization dedicated to brotherhood get out on
> > line and march with Rosa Parks? Why didn't Theosophists write
> > the Civil Rights Movement to integrate America's schools,
> > businesses, and churches the way Gandhi worked to liberate India?
> Because the Theosophical Society itself is enjoined from
> involved in politics, although individual members are encouraged
to do so.
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