Re: Theos-World Hindu astronomy, ages & precession
Mar 04, 2006 07:46 PM
Don't ya love the correlations? There's one point I want to bring
out, with all due respect for your observations, which genuinely
appreciate. Like virtually all ancient peoples, American Indians
used lunar calendars throughout the Americas. The Lakota named
months for events occurring in the lunar period, e.g., the moon of
cherry blossoms. The assumption that everybody knew about the Mayan
timekeeping took over 400 years to get straight, and is still an
area of misunderstanding.
Variances in knowledge among tribes is enormous. Zero around 300
B.C. in central Mexico where pyramid centers were built; the
Blackfeet didn't even have counting system and were nomadic. When
the political boundaries were drawn, they got rooted down in
Central Mexico was the center of learning for many tribes in what is
now North America as well as Mexico. Teotihuacan was an ancient
initiation center of learning, with permanent living quarters for
some distant tribes that visited. Teotihucan had distant embassies
with other tribes, such as one in Guatemala among the Quiche Maya.
The existence of Teotihuacan's embassies is a fairly recent
discovery of the last few decades.
The Maya were a pantribal order of scholars that included
timekeepers and pyramid builders that were highly trained and
comparable to a mystery school. While everybody in an area might
know how to name a month, only trained scholars knew timekeeping.
Timekeepers were selected in childhood and prepared for the finely
skilled work of their lives.
Assuming that one savage was the same as the next savage, the
Conquistadores memorialized wildly wrong information by asking local
dignitaries, like a local chieftan, who should be highly
knowledgeable in the Conquistadores organizational system, to tell
them about the calendar. An old chief, who might know next to
nothing about the calendar would explain the way he thought things
worked to the Conquistadores
Wildly inaccurate information the Conquistadores acquired from
anyone standing near a pyramid was not recognized for what it was
until about 1950 when Eric Thompson finally deciphered the ancient
calendar to discover that it was based on the most accurate and
sophisticated astronomy that existed in the world at the time.
When the Conquistadores asked who built the pyramids, for example,
and the native people said the Maya were the builders, the idiots
from Europe thought the Maya were a tribe. The Maya were not a
tribe and the term is still badly abused. There are more than 35
native tribes in Guatemala but only one order of pantribal Maya that
have managed to survive as a distinct order of scholars. The Mayan
calendar remains the most sophisticated calendar that is poorly
understood, even by modern descendants of what are commonly called
the Maya now.
Genetics is not a good transmitter of astronomy. When the ancient
centers of learning were closed after Conquest, the knowledge they
contained became as scrambled as anything Rome has to offer. That's
why it's taken almost 500 years to decipher the calendar, and it is
still not complete.
As far as the five-year cycle is concerned, it is a very important
count. The five-pointed star was an important symbol in the Apache
medicine wheel as well.
Let me know if you think of anything else.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, samblo@... wrote:
> I was meaning to get back to you about your "excerpt" I found
> interesting reading and have saved it to my Documents, thanks for
posting it. Also
> "1080" is the Lunar Radius so the Ecliptic cycle could be viewed
> multiple as a thumbnail system. The American Indians I guess were
fond of the
> expression "Many Moons ago" the question may be what is the actual
time value of a
> Moon if the moon is 2160 miles and a sign of the zodiac is 2160
> values of multiples of 1080 and 2160 can have various magnitudes
> Another thing that arose in my mind reading your post in
particular to the
> "five years cycle" mentioned therein was the appearance of the
images of the
> five Kachina Deities that come directly out of the sphere of the
Sun as seen
> in the Apache Spirit Mountain Ghost Dancers as an important and
> portion of the ceremonial rite. Additionally in the Mahabharata I
have seen a
> correlatively similar scene, five Devas come directly out of the
sphere of the
> Sun and descend to stand upon the Earth on front of important
personages of the
> Mahabharata, I just wanted to tell you about that.
> The moon 216 sexigesimal (6x6x6) x 10 =2160 lunar Diameter =
> The speed of the Earth in it's orbit is 18.5 miles/sec=1110 miles
per minute x
> 60 =66,600 miles per hour. In the Magic Squares for the Sun and
> are values. Sun, Moon, Earth, Unity of Three, Pyramid of Life and
> bill Hamilton some time, we had a way of translating Long/Lat. to
time day date
> and place.
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