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Feb 28, 2006 06:21 AM
by carlosaveline cardoso aveline

Dear Dave,

Thanks for your message, see below.

If you read "The Elder Brother", by G. Tillett"; or "Is This Theosophy?",
by Ernest Wood; or the Autobiography of Mr. A. Sinnett, you will see what I
mean. And also "There is No Religion Higher than Truth", by E. L. Gardner.

I believe these texts will be enough and we should discuss them at
Theos-talk in the near future. Yet there are many others.

If you talk to Ms Radha Burnier or Joy Mills, privately, you will see what I
mean, by their unwillingness to defend CWL's wild fancies in any way whatsoever...

Pay attention to the way Pedro Oliveira, who has "political" experience,
defends CWL: always rather in an indirect way.

There are strong reasons for all that.

CWL's frauds have been clearly PUT ON THE TABLE and a growing number of
theosophists now dare to accept the facts.

I am confident you will follow the same trend in due time.

Best regards, Carlos.

From: "soulsurvivor7771" <>
Subject: Theos-World Re: HPB and "W.C. LEADBEATER"
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 17:10:08 -0000

Carlos, this is a new low. Now you want us to judge CWL's works on
the basis of HPB's personal likes and dislikes. This is even lamer
than your earlier attempts at nit-picking differences between his
writings and your dogma, then ridiculing his writings on Mars and
later questioning his methods.

Your very statement about 'hypocrites' and 'false courtesy'
disregards the Master's advice not to throw slurs or denounce
another theosophist.

As for your toilet humor, a permutation of your initials gives CAC
which means something unpleasant in certain languages (I couldn't
bring myself to use it in a subject line).

If you have something to say about CWL and his works, please do so
once and for all and move on to something else (or you could write a
book, if you can cobble together enough insinuations). We really do
not need this daily dose of CAC.


--- In, "carlosaveline cardoso aveline"
<carlosaveline@...> wrote:
> oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
> oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
> Pedro is right once more in quoting the Mahatma Letters and H.P.B.
> We should all thank him for that (see below).
> Yet things are not always mechanical, especially in the spiritual
> where appearances
> and the dead letter of formality are most often astutely used as a
> curtain to hide truth.
> For instance,when Leadbeater came back to London, after being in
> and in Ceylon, he was sometimes referred to by the Old Lady as "W.
> Leadbeater". And,
> of course, he was never admitted to her Esoteric School as long as
> lived.
> Hypocrites,  never real occultists,  use false courtesy as an
excuse to
> justify their lies.
> Gregory Tillett writes in his illuminating biography of
C.W.L., "The Elder
> Brother":
> "One is led to wonder why H.P.B. herself seems to have had no time
> Leadbeater after his return from Ceylon. She did not admit him to
her own
> Esoteric Section of the Theosophical Society, and it is said that
she would
> refer to him, when is a less charitable mood, as 'W.C.
> Certainly he was completely absent from H.P.B.'s circle between
his return
> to England in 1889 and her death in 1891. From being a rising
> sacrificing all to follow H.P.B. to India at the Master's
instructions, a
> "chela" of whom she had such high hopes, he was now relegated to
> supporting role of a small fish in a large esoteric pond. His work
in Ceylon
> was ignored, the psychic powers which he said he had gained whilst
at Adyar
> were unacknowledged, and his contacts with the Master
unrecognized --
> except, of course, by Sinnett who employed him as a medium for
contact with
> the Master, physical letters having ceased to appear.  The
messages received
> from [... the Master] via Leadbeater conflicted strangely with the
> of the same Master given out by H.P.B." (1)
> In fact, Leadbeater was NOT in a supporting role, though.  He was
taking a
> leading  part in the nursery and origin of all subsequent
illusions and
> mayavic ideations which would lead the largest of theosophical
> astray along 20th century.  HPB was very frank in her criticism of
> mediumnistic pseudo-contacts with the Mahatmas.
> Best regards,  Carlos.
> O o o O o o O o o O o o O o o O
> Note:
> (1)  See page 54 of  "The Elder Brother, a Biography of Charles
> Leadbeater", by Gregory Tillett, Routledge & Kegan Paul --
London, Boston,
> Melbourne and Henley,  1982, 337 pages.
> >From: "prmoliveira" <prmoliveira@...>
> >Reply-To:
> >To:
> >Subject: Theos-World Dangers on the Path (III)
> >Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 19:40:42 -0000
> >
> >According to Madame Blavatsky, the following advice was received
> >her from a Master. It is included at the end of the text "The
> >Original Programme of The Theosophical Society".
> >
> >
> >"Theosophy must not represent merely a collection of moral
> >a bundle of metaphysical Ethics epitomized in theoretical
> >dissertations. Theosophy must be made practical, and has,
> >to be disencumbered of useless discussion . . . It has to find
> >objective expression in an all-embracing code of life thoroughly
> >impregnated with its spirit -- the spirit of mutual tolerance,
> >charity and love. Its followers have to set the example of a
> >outlined and as firmly applied morality before they get the right
> >point out, even in a spirit of kindness, the absence of a like
> >Unity and singleness of purpose in other associations and
> >individuals. As said before -- no Theosophist should blame a
> >whether within or outside of the association, throw slur upon his
> >actions or denounce him {It is in consequence of this letter that
> >Art. XII was adopted in Rules and a fear of lacking the charity
> >prescribed, that led so often to neglect its enforcement.} lest he
> >should himself lose the right of being considered a theosophist.
> >Ever turn away your gaze from the imperfections of your neighbour
> >and centre rather your attention upon your own shortcomings in
> >to correct them and become wiser . . . Show not the disparity
> >between claim and action in another man but -- whether he be
> >or neighbour -- rather help him in his arduous walk in life . . ."
> >
> >(
> >
> >
> >pedro
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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