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Feb 27, 2006 10:34 AM
by M. Sufilight

Hallo all,

My views are:

The following is taken from another theosophical forum (Mailed by Donald DeGracia)
It might be helpful to some of you.

"Beware the man who claims to have solved the problem of life, who
would explain its complexities and, with deadly logic, build a system
in which all the facts of existence may be pigeon-holed and neatly
stored away.  He stands condemned by his own claim.  The child which
sees wonder in all the world around it, to whom the shells with which
it plays on the beach are objects of breathless excitement and thrilled
amazement, is nearer to divine truth than the intellectualist who would
strip a world of its mystery and takes pride in showing us its anatomy
in rutheless dissection...  Many are the systems claiming to explain
life, contradictory in their premises and consequently in their
conclusions.  They may be clever, they may fit perfectly in all their
details, but life itself ever evades them; were it possible to coontain
life in a system it would no longer be life but death.  Life is ever
changing, ever becoming, yet eternal in its abiding reality and the
desire to to grasp and hold it, to see it streched out before us, as a
butterfly in its glass case is destined ever to be dissapointed.  Our
systems of theology and philosophy, yes, even science, are but
momentary glimpses of a rapid movement; they may show us an instant of
that movement frozen in immobility, the movement itself can never be
contained in them....  Though ever again men may claim to have found
truth and to possess hher, truth herself remains untouched; truth is
the mystery of life which man can never reach....Thus it is possible for
man to know the mystery of life; solve it he never can, still less
contain it in an intellectual system, however logical.  Life is not
logical, though logic is the alphabet which we must learn if we would
speak the language of life, which is truth....  The mystery of life is
no0t a problem to be solved, it is a reality to be expereinced."

These quotes are from the extremely profound book,, "In Conquest of
Illusion" by J.J.  van der Leeuw.

Now I have emailed it here at Theos-Talk.
And, a few days will problably pass, and some of you will have forgotten
the content of this quote. But, I strongly recvommend, that you Please remember it!

Another one from J.J.  van der Leeuw is this one:
"Theosophy as the reallization of life by each man (person) in his
(her) own consciousness, is incompatible with a hierarchic system of
revelation where truth and enlightenment come to us through others and
where the guidance of our life rests on orders from superiors." Earlier in
the book he argues against being so individual that you can not learn from
others, so, it is not merely an immature reaction. (by Arthur Paul Patterson)

The last one is for Dave, Anand, Carlos 
and others to consider carefully.

Scroll a bit down and read the rare paper written a few month after 
Krishnamurti dissolved The Order of the Star in the East.

"Revelation or Realization: The Conflict in Theosophy" by J.J. van der Leeuw, LL.D.
(Amsterdam: N.V. Theosofische Vereeniging Uitgevers Maatschappij, 1930)

The questions are:
1. Where is the author J.J. van der Leeuw not in accordance with the truth?
2. And if he is not in accordance with the truth, why isn't he?

I find it to be somewhat true, that,
PURE SILENCE about these questions, just shows us all the reality the ernest Seekers faces.

M. Sufilight with peace and love...

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