Special connections with Mahatmas
Feb 26, 2006 11:04 AM
In their relationship with Blavatsky, the Mahatmas demonstrated the
ability to appear and disappear, to precipitate letters to those
whom they wished to communicate, and to establish direct
communication with those whom they wished to develop relationships.
Several direct relationships with the Mahatmas' are described
in "Letters From The Masters of the Wisdom."
If the Mahatmas had desired to establish direct relationships with
Besant, Ledbeater, Sinnett and others, they were fully capable of
doing that, as demonstrated by the evidences of their relationship
with Blavatsky. While in telepathic (or psychic) communication with
Blavatsky, they also demonstrated many physical artifacts with her.
The Mahatmas could have affirmed special relationships with many
that claimed special connections if they had wished to do so.
In parsing through the truth or untruth of proclaimed leaders who
followed Blavatsky in the Theosophical Movement, a good place to
start is identifying any public endorsement or evidence the Mahatmas
gave to the indivduals making claims to special relationships with
the Masters of the Wisdom. This would go a long ways towards
identify who had significant connections with the Mahatmas and take
the debate out of the realm of sheer opinion.
An excel spreadsheet would be an easy place to start by listing the
means by which the Mahatmas publicly endorsed Blavatsky on an "X"
axis. A list of names of those claiming to have special
relationships with the Mahatmas comparable to Blavatsky's could then
be put on a "Y" axis, noting any evidence publicly provided to
support their claims of association with the Mahatmas with the dates
the public demonstration was made.
The last letter from a Mahatma was received in 1900. After
Blavatsky's death, Olcott said that he had not received any
communication from the Mahatmas with any objective evidence.
As I stated in an earlier post, psychics, saints and psychotics have
been hearing voices since the beginning of time. The trick is to
get them to tell the truth.
A simple evidenciary trail of communication with the Mahatmas might
be useful in this case. A long list of individuals who claimed
special knowledge but had no evidence to support their claims would
be easily developed.
The rest is history.
It is entirely possible that this had already been done, and I
missed the trail because I'm new to the list.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "plcoles1" <plcoles1@...> wrote:
Hello Gregory and All,
While it maybe true that CWL never claimed adeptship as far as I
know, he certainly did
claim to be in regular communication with very lofty beings such as
the "Christ" Himself
and the Maha-Chohan the "Lord of the World" ect..
He gave very elaborate descriptions of these beings in his book
`Masters and the path'
He also describe initiations ?!? and told people when they had
been "initiated" even when
they had no knowledge of it themselves?!?
This kind of awareness I would imagine required adeptic powers as
these processes are
said to happen on a Soul level.
Ordinary psychic vision would as far as my understanding goes not be
sufficient to make
these kind of pronouncements.
CWL always used a very a very matter of fact style that disarmed
people into believing him.
He also used throw away lines like `don't believe me, develop
psychic powers and see for
yourself'....however his style was in reality one of paternalistic
down talking &
disempowerment while on the surface sounding "oh so humble" as old
Uriah Heep said.
Many of his statements are by implication and thus all the more
insidious in there power
to enamour, dis-empower and disengage the intellect imo.
--- In email@example.com, gregory@ wrote:
> Regarding the 1925 "revelations":
> The revelations regarding "occult advancements" and such were
> essentially, by Arundale, but sometimes by Wedgwood. The
announcement of the
> "Apostles" was given by Arundale, but (partly) publicly disclosed
> (without identifying Arundale as the source). Published accounts
> "revelations" are found in the writings of Emily and Mary Lutyens.
> further details of them from Rex Henry, Wedgwood's secretary at
the time, and
> from Mary Lutyens.
> Leadbeater did not accept, and indeed privately rejected,
> there are published accounts of his reaction in works by Ernest
Wood and Adrian
> Vreede (who were with him when he received the news). Dick Balfour-
> was present when Leadbeater received the cable about
the "Apostles", gave me a
> detailed account of his reaction in an interview at Adyar.
Leadbeater did not,
> however, publicly repudiate the "revelations" for fear of
splitting the TS. The
> Lutyens' books confirm that Leadbeater did not accept
> Krishnamurti also rejected the "revelations" and arranged for
> of "The World University" to communicate this fact to Besant. It
may be that
> this was the catalyst for her sudden and rapid physical and
> Arundale told Krishnamurti (allegedly passing on a message from
> that unless he (K) accepted the "revelations" his brother, Nitya,
> While on ship to India, Krishnamurti received the news of Nitya's
> Krishnamurti's attitude to his supposed role and to the TS clearly
> dramatically from that time.
> As for Wedgwood's health, physical and psychological: he had
> addiction to cocaine during his time in Paris in the 1920's and
> syphilis for which he refused treatment, apparently on the grounds
> person of his exalted occult status could not suffer from such a
> claims have been substantiated in interview with Rex Henry, a
> close friend of Wedgwood in the 1920's and by documents left by
> (who was responsible for having Wedgwood looked after in his
> Wedgwood declined both physically and psychologically,
particularly after he
> settled at the TS centre at Tekels Park, near Camberley, in 1937.
He died in
> 1951 after a fall in which he broke several ribs and ruptured a
> Dr Gregory Tillett
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