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Dostoievsky, Freud and Prayag Letter

Feb 16, 2006 04:01 PM
by carlosaveline cardoso aveline


Thanks a lot.

1) As to Dostoievksy, he is universal besides being Russian. His books are in general heavy to read, but deep portraits of human moral suffering, and few novelists got quoted the way he did by one of the Mahatmas in their Letters. He obviously got in their direct area of influence in his later years. His worldwide impact on human thought can be also measured by the fact that his novels are part of the foundations of Sigmund Freud's Psychoanalysis (unconscious conflitct of fathers x sons). Leon Tolstoy also got mentioned by the Masters in their Letters, directly, as other writers, scientists and mystics of different centuries and countries did.

2)And S. Freud, one of whose sources of inspiration was Dostoievsky, wrote about centralized religions just like the Masters wrote in the famous Prayag Letter, and in the also famous and polemic Letter 10 (TUP edition) or Letter 88 (Chronological Edition) of the Mahatma Letters.

3)Dostoievsky's denunciation of priests and their hipocrisy in "Karamazov Brothers" got directly in the line of Mahatmas's action and influence. Just the opposite from what C.W. Leadbeater did creating a new Christian Church inside the theosophical movement, the Liberal Catholic Church, with a new "Christ", which would be J. Kidshnamurti.

4) Tomorrow I will bring you more specific data on the false Russian Letter. Which, by the way,
seems to have been commented by HPB herself, since the story that she was a Russian Spy was invented during the 1880s, to discredit the theosophical movement in India. HPB wrote about that in her Letters to A.P. Sinnett.

5) I don't have internet at home, as I live in the rural area. So I cannot consult anything right now. One "transcription" of the "Russian Spy" letter, or its false original, is said to be in a Museum of the October Revolution (perhaps in Ukraine?) but I will give you proper data tomorrow. HPB loved Russia, but she was not a spy. She was a theosophist, a woman in 19th century who challenged every power in the world. Both the Vatican and other religious and secular "powers" were busy trying to destroy or hinder her work. A work which was not hers, but shich she served and helped as she could.

6) As to Daniel Caldwell, I invite you to read Paul Johnson's several testimonies on Daniel creating false persons to attack theosophical groups. I am still waiting for any clarifications from Daniel, as I do believe in people's right to give out their own version of facts. It has been one week today, Friday, since Paul sent us his first text on the secretly aggressive activities apparently developed by Daniel. As you know, truthfulness is of the essence in Theosophy, as in life in general.

Greetings, Carlos.


From: "Konstantin Zaitzev" <>
Subject: Theos-World Re: To Konstantin in Russia
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 20:52:30 -0000

--- In, "carlosaveline cardoso aveline"

> I do not know if people care for Russian classics now in Russia,
> but Dostoievsky was key to me many decades ago,  and I enjoy
> reading Tolstoy to-day

Yes, the classics is popular even now, and the serial "Idiot" after
Dostoyevsky was recently shown on the TV recently in a prime-time.
But I think that Dostoyevsky is a somewhat wrong key. He made
bad publicity for Russians showing them as gloomy and irrational
people. It's just like judging about Americans by charachters of the
novels by Edgar Poe. After a century it still damages reputation of
our country. Tolstoy is much better in this respect.

> If you or anyone you know can help me investigate about the
> false "Russian Spy Letter", which is said to be in an Russian
> Museum now, please let me know.

Can you quote this letter? I don't know which particular letter is
meant. Now I can only say that "Russian Museum" is probably
wrong name, for this museum is located in St.Peterburg and is
dedicated exclusively to the fine arts.

Yet there is quite normal to meet definitely partiotic assertions
in her letters, like "I am ready to serve rather to the Russian
science that to their German-English MaxMullerian one", and
some extreme political assertions.

There are two main storages where her letters can be kept,
Russian State Archive of Literary Sources and Russian State
Library (former Lenin Library), but it's doubtful that the mantioned
letter is there, for all letters from there are (most probably)
already published and there are no any "spy letters" among them.

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