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Feb 16, 2006 11:47 AM
by carlosaveline cardoso aveline


Only now I can read and comment your
excellent text "Identifying the Enemy" (below).

Really, as I write on February 16th, I can see that since
Paul has "revealed" Daniel (unless Daniel shows us he is innocent...),
much more people are contributing texts on several subjects,
which means a broadening of horizons, and Daniel has stopped
(so far) with those repetitious aggressions.

There is a democratization in the group, as I see it.

But Daniel still has the floor to show "David Green" and "Mr. Hobbes"
etc are not frauds created by him.

Best regards and thank you for you open perspective,   Carlos.

From: "Robert Bruce MacDonald" <>

Subject: Theos-World Identifying the enemy
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:44:24 -0700

Is Theos-Talk on the verge of an epiphany? Are we getting closer to the
kind of Brotherly interaction that the Movement was designed to foster? The
Theosophical Society has been blind and hurt for over 100 years. Perhaps it
is the case that a Daniel Caldwell was necessary, a Paul Johnson was
necessary, and Theo-Talk was necessary. We are beginning to understand what
is keeping us divided, it is our IGNORANCE concerning the type of behavior
exhibited by the likes of Daniel Caldwell. The members of Theos-Talk have
had to endure this type of behavior for many years and maybe it is time to
hear what they have learned. There are many Daniel Caldwells in the world,
perhaps it is time to identify their behavior, know why it is inappropriate
and call them on it. Ignorance is the enemy. Understanding this ignorance
is the sword that will slay that enemy.

For those interested in this discussion, allow me to start it off. What of
the practice of calling you on some point you are trying to make and showing
how you are guilty of the same mistake and then providing close to one
hundred examples of it and threatening you with more. What is happening
here? Most often, when you look at the examples it is a case of comparing
apples with oranges. This leaves you with the task of having to justify
your point by demonstrating how each example does not apply. What if one or
two do apply? Who cares? We evolve and change as humans and if in the
course of a discussion in the here and now we come to new conclusions, does
that get invalidated by mistakes that we made in the past? Brotherhood
means being allowed to make mistakes because that is one of the few ways
that we learn. We should not be forced to acknowledge every error that we
have ever made and make amends for them. That is what Karma is for, does
Daniel think that he is an agent of Karma?

What do you do when someone throws such a list at you? Perhaps one solution
would be to counter with the following:
"That is quite the list you have there, however, I suspect you are comparing
apples with oranges. Perhaps you can take one of the examples and
demonstrate how you think it is appropriate to the present context."
Make him do the work! Do not let him take over the course of the debate and
control it by putting you on the defensive.

Is there any other insights that anyone wants to share on the behavior of

Sincerely, Bruce

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