Re: Theos-World Paul and the future
Feb 15, 2006 09:40 AM
by Bill Meredith
I meant to say at the end of this message "the end justifies the means"
instead of "the end is justified by the means."
Bill Meredith wrote:
carlosaveline cardoso aveline wrote:
In the Mahatma Letters, T.U.P., Letter LII, p. 292, one of the Masters says
that as they had allowed their names to be "dragged into publicity", they
had to stand "offensive" articles, and so on.
Ironically, he says, quoting Olcott, that this was "the penalty of their
(mudane, mayavic) greatness".
So I do not think that your speculative and naive books are quite the end
of the world.
I would say that unless you are an exceptionally talented speed reader
you have not read Paul's books yet and so for you to judge them is
an example of lower self arrogance and self-righteous zeal that needs
to be contained by your higher self. Give your Self a chance by
consciously choosing to identify it.
But for some reason your books have led you into some kind of close
association of such beings as "Daniel Green", John Algeo and other similar
level "pundits". This is for you to think, please. Meditate on that. Every
fact has at least one CAUSE. I think the cause in this case is maya,
self-delusion. The must be something wrong in your navigation system" for
you to have come into close relationship with a "intellectual" as "David
Green" and to be used, as you described, by J. Algeo.
This would be a far more effective discussion if you, Carlos, would
discuss how your past actions have brought into some kind of close
association with Daniel, Jerome, John, Bruce, Paul, and now me.
Meditate on that. Every fact has at least one CAUSE. I think that the
cause in this case is your own self-delusion, but what I think is not
nearly so important as what you discover about yourself through
meditation and self-study. There must be something wrong in your
navigation system for you to come on theos-talk and think that you can
tell other people what is wrong with them. Tell us what is wrong with
you, my friend. Then and only then will you have pulled the beam from
your own eye sufficiently to see others with any clarity.
I also believe that you having had the courage and the character necessary
to face and to confront Daniel and his tricks (IF he does not prove to us
all this innocence or "non-guiltyness"... ) --- as well as to bravely
tell us about all your dealings with the TPH and J. Algeo, this, I say,
shows that you can go beyond the point where you are now.
Each step at a time. Now you have done THeos-talk a great service.
This is so much psycho-babble. Your beliefs about Paul are founded on
the shifting sands of your own delusion. Please restrict your
phycho-analysis to your own self.
As time passes a serious debate as "where and how to investigate about
Masters" can be held.
This is a one-sided view that does not even allow for the existence of
other perspectives. It is anti-theosophical and harmful to the movement
to see such things in print.
The question, for theosophists, depends on vibration rates.
Poetry cannot be experiened at the vibration rate typical of a box fight, or
through the emotion of love for immediate personal money fame or personal
power; and Masters cannot be found by the methods you tried. Personal &
physical IDs have nothing to do with Adepts.
You did not reveal the Masters, then, but you revealed some important
hypotheses about Daniel's secret activities, and you may have revealed
fundamental aspects of the aggressive variety of neotheosophy and
I guess, though, that your dialogue with the theosophical movement is just
starting and can lead you much beyond your books written so far and your
present ideas -- once you but keep to the honest feelings in your heart and
Best regards, Carlos.
It is becoming clear that you are using Paul as the enemy of your
enemy. I ask you to examine your own motivations in this regard and see
if you are not succumbing to the old and false notion that "the end is
justified by the means."
p.s. tell jerome I said hello.
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