Re: Theos-World So Daniel let me get this straight.....: Re: Changes in The Voi ce of the Silence
Feb 13, 2006 11:50 AM
Dear Mr Caldwell:
As far as all your questions go, I don't see how any of them have any
relevance to the study of theosophy or to my previous informative posting about the
implied, supposedly damaging (or as you called it "tampering") changes in the
VOS -- (which, apparently, were simply justifiable editorial polishing) -- that
I still see as nit picking and part of a personal vendetta against ULT and
I also see such questions as possibly clever dodges intended to divert
answering the points I made in my last exposure of your implied accusations. Such
methods obviously intending to discredit anyone who questions your prejudicial
assertions, cleverly disguised, in my view, as inquisitional-type leading
questions that, if unanswered, are designed, apparently, to prove your points, as
well as your infallibility in historical judgments in the minds of your
readers. BTW, that appears to be a novel twist on an old occult propaganda trick
of how to "imply a lie by telling the truth." (No personal accusations
Accordingly, since I had hoped my explanatory letter would stop this
continuous prsonalized poking and probing about the past that diverts us all from the
study and practice of theosophy -- which is far more important than the
endless bickering over the past or present organizational problems of the long
effete TS and its spinoffs, or the peccadilloes and opinions of their leaders -- I
refuse to get involved any further in these non productive discussions... That
for you may be important for your self esteem as a respected theosophical
historian -- but to me is simply endless and diverting stirring up of tempests in
teapots that continue to clutter up my mailbox.
As for dragging me into your controversy with Mr. Aveline... Since I cannot
speak for him, or for the policies and politics of either the TS or ULT, I have
no interest in getting involved in your cross examinations. Here, I wish to
be considered simply as an independed student of theosophy and its science and
occultism at their most fundamental levels -- with no affiliation whatsoever
with any theosophical or occult organizations -- although I subscribe to the
objects of the Theosophical Movement.
So, please go pick on someone else if you have to get your points across in
open forums through countless flooding of repetitious and inquisition-like
demands for confessions about historical claims and counter claims that I have no
interest in pursuing.
However, if you wish to discuss theosophical metaphysics and ethics, or their
practical applications with me, or question my knowledge or opinions on the
level of pure occultism and its deepest scientific and philosophical
correlation's, I would be most happy to engage in such a dialogue with you.
I remain, in all theosophical tolerance and brotherhood,
Leon H. Maurer
In a message dated 2/12/06 11:34:00 PM, firstname.lastname@example.org writes:
> Hello Leon,
> Thank you for your comments at:
> on the subject of "Changes in THE VOICE OF THE SILENCE"
> as published by the Theosophy Company.
> So Leon, it appears that the bottom line with you can be summarised
> as follows concerning the hundreds of changes made in the VOICE OF
> THE SILENCE published by the Theosophy Company:
> "... all I can see is nonsensical and personalized nit
> picking over minor changes made in one of HPB's books that makes
> mountains out of molehills about simple editorial touch ups...."
> And at the end of your long email you also write:
> "....to imply or suggest that the VOS teachings were deleteriously
> altered -- is utter nonsense -- and certainly not worth taking up
> the time of members of this forum to continue harping on...."
> So Leon, I'm curious. If none of these changes bother you even if
> Annie Besant and G.R.S. Mead made them, what do you think about
> Mr. Carlos Aveline's statement which reads in part???
> "In time I hope the Adyar TS will come to publicly
> acknowledge and debate other mistakes it made.
> "A few, selected examples:
> "1. The tampering with the first edition of The Secret Doctrine,
> until the ULT published the first facsimile edition in 1925...."
> [The Aquarian Theosophist, March 17, 2006.]
> Now you say that the alleged "tampering" with the VOICE OF THE
> SILENCE is nothing more than "nonsensical and personalized nit
> picking over minor changes" and the making of "mountains out of
> molehills about simple editorial touch ups..."
> If that is really the case, then what about the alleged "tampering"
> with THE SECRET DOCTRINE that Mr. Carlos Aveline is writing to Betty
> Bland about.
> As far as I can tell, it was also Mr. Mead who did the "updating" of
> THE SECRET DOCTRINE.
> If the same Mr. Mead was making "simple editorial touch ups"
> to the SECRET DOCTRINE, would you also be willing to say that Mr.
> Aveline is simply engaged in "nonsensical and personalized nit
> picking over minor changes"???
> That in fact, Mr. Aveline is ALSO guilty of making "mountains out of
> And Leon as you contemplate answering my above questions, please
> keep in mind that it was this same Mr. Mead who edited A MODERN
> PANARION which was reprinted in 1981 by the Theosophy Company.
> I refer you to my article on that subject:
> I assume that you also see no problem with the Theosophy Company in
> 1981 issuing and recycyling this edition of A MODERN PANARION which
> as my article indicates has 100s of changes to HPB's text? Correct?
> Thank you for your input and I look forward to your thoughts on the
> issues and questions I have addressed above.
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