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RE: Theos-World Self-Intro, and disappointment

Feb 13, 2006 05:26 AM
by W.Dallas TenBroeck


2/13/2006 5:21 AM

Dear Friend:

Welcome to Theosophy

Welcome to our talkative company -- many fine minds and many opinions.  We
seek those ideas that are useful and common-sense, and which balance our
daily realities with what humor we can muster in view of the fact that we
are, in fact, all, brother (and sister) immortals in essence.  We cannot
"get rid of each-other," now, or in the future. 

The "theosophical world" is a wide one. Tolerance of each other's beliefs is
basic to all, or we could not talk to each other.  We can be at the same
time sympathetic and trenchant when an idea seems inaccurate.  So we have
all to be resilient.

What we do have in common is a basic desire to find and use that which is
true and useful.  If we find that someone seems to have developed a tangent,
or a bias, one or other of us is very likely to challenge it (not the
person, but the idea) in tones "loud and clear."  This can often be quite
abrasive to one's pet ideas or beliefs.  At that time we ought to sit and
examine them, and then return with questions that bring out the meaning (as
we may have misunderstood) of what the other says.

Our greatest barrier has been, and is, largely:  language, as we have all
developed personal uses for words, and our ideas seem to be, different in
value.  This can always be adjusted but, it takes time and patience.

In some cases the "history," or the "traditions" of the theosophical group
in which we have developed seems to separate those groups, but, a study of
the developing history of the Theosophical Movement (documents and events)
reconciles such differences.  But, that is reviewing the past, and, is only
valuable to explain some trends we each carry and show.  

The more we know, the broader the base of study and consideration, the more
stable is Theosophy found to be as a philosophy that considers all aspects
of nature, of life, and of development.  In its consideration of human
psychology alone it outstrips and adjusts many aspects of Modern clinical
Psychology, -- I offer this as one instance.  In another realm it is found
to delve into the sources of all faiths, sects and religions with a view to
seeking their common origins and thus reconciling them all--adding to the
understanding that leads to true tolerance.  

In the original Theosophical literature written by Mme. Blavatsky you will
find wide ranging concepts of knowledge reviewed.  Some statements conflict
with
Science, as she claims that ancient science shows a broader base than that
which is yet developed as our Science investigates Nature in many
departments.  After all:  Science seeks for those facts and laws that are
already existent in the complexities and relationships existing already in
Nature as a whole.

There is much more, as for instance, the concept of universal evolution --a
progress which involves every single living thing, and binds all together
into a vast "brotherhood," from the "atom" to the "World," to the Universe
as a Whole.  It looks into the origins of intelligence in life and being,
and it considers their middle course in which we now find ourselves, and
finally it considers the eventual reincarnation of all this marvelous
complexity as a continuity which never ceases to be.  

Hence immortality for the spirit/soul of each human, as of all "life-atoms
(Monads)" is a given.  The Universe is run by Laws which are complex but
simple in their operations:  each action, be it a thought or an impulse
leaves an indelible impression of its surroundings, beginning with our
selves, and thus we predispose ourselves to the personal nature which we
have.  

The power of the will, based on individual intelligence and consciousness
allows each of us to choose his own future by decisions which are his, or
her, own.  Thus universal evolution.  This independence is said to be a
proof of the immortal Individuality, of the Spirit/Soul of each person.  

It is an idea at least worth considering, as included in its purview is the
concept that each is individually responsible for such choices and acts as
they do, and this responsibility is inescapable (Karma) because of the
universal equity and justice that rules every aspect of Nature.  There are
no "miracles," nor will "prayer" cause our making of the essential and
necessary restitution (or benefit) to vanish.  

You observe that much seems theoretical and there is less in the nature of
"practical" matters discussed.  This may be so, but the "theoretical," if
correct  can lead to the practical, which is in the hands and subject to the
will/decisions of each person in the place where he/she lives and works.  

For all of us, one primary duty exists:  to learn what Theosophy teaches.
The applications then are obvious.  A knowledge of such
theoretical/practical information can best be acquired by a careful reading
of Mme. Blavatsky's THE KEY TO THEOSOPHY (300 pages).  This book offers a
good basis to secure information on all aspects of basic theosophical theory
and its practical application, as she devotes over 100 pages to both
subjects.

I am sure that you know most of this and I am only writing because you say
you are a new-comer to this our smorgasbord of thoughts and ideas.

	"IDEAS RULE THE WORLD"

	Let then discover true ones together.

Dallas

PS

These may help you:



U L T  WEB PAGES AND ADDRESSES.DOC

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	WEB RESOURCES  THEOSOPHICAL  [  July 2005  ]



Subject: INTERNET RESOURCES for Theosophical Literature and Study Meetings


WEB-PAGES of   U L T s  as of    

and

Internet :  CONNECTIONS TO THEOSOPHICAL  RESOURCES

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Where one can obtain, read and down-load copies of Books
and Articles by H P B, W Q J and the Mahatmas.

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NOTE :
        Please check these for accuracy and let me know if there are
                any additions or errors.

D T B           
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	Internet :  
	CONNECTIONS TO THEOSOPHICAL  RESOURCES



Theosophy Company, Los Angeles  	www.theosophycompany.org 
      245 W 33rd St., Los Angeles. 90007, U  S  A
www.ULT.org	[or]	www.ult-la.org 
		E-mail:   	inquiry@theosophycompany.org 
		Catalog of publications
http://www.theosophycompany.org/cart_other_books.html

	[THEOSOPHY  -- Bi-monthly magazine ]


PHOENIX  ULT                            	www.phx-ult-lodge.org/
    Original Texts, etc.  "on line"


BLAVATSKY  NET -- New York      http://www.blavatsky.net


NEW YORK,  UNITED LODGE OF THEOSOPHISTS
				E-mail:  Uotownley@gmail.comUHH
					www.Theosophynyc.org
                                               		www.ultnyc.org

MUMBAI (Bombay), U L T, India,  	www.ultindia.org
        (Original Theosophical texts
                reprinted in English)

	[THE THEOSOPHICAL MOVEMENT   
		-- monthly magazine ]


THEOSOPHICAL UNIVERSITY PRESS
 
www.theosociety.org/tupress/
tupress@theosociety.org 
        [ SUNSET, (monthly) and edited Theosophical Texts ]


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ATHENS,  U   L T, Greece			http://www.ultathens.gr/

BANGALORE,  U  L T, India            	www.ultindia.org

CHENNAI, (Madras) U L T, India   	www.ultindia.org

MALMO   U L T,  Sweden             	www.teosofiskakompaniet.net
        (Wadia Articles, etc )

MATUNGA U L T, India            	www.ultindia.org

MUMBAI (Bombay), U L T, India,  	www.ultindia.org
        (Original Theosophical texts
                reprinted in English)

LONDON, ULT  U.K.                     	www.ultlon.freeserve.co.uk

LOS ANGELES, ULT  USA            	www.ult-la.org
					www.theosophycompany.org
					www.ULT.org

        (Original Theosophical texts reprinted)

                STUDY GROUPS nearby
        Long Beach Study Group
        Upland Study Group


MALMO, ULT   (In Swedish)            www.teosofiskakompaniet.net
        (Articles in English by B. P. Wadia)

NEW YORK,  UNITED LODGE OF THEOSOPHISTS
				E-mail:  Uotownley@gmail.comUHH

					www.geocities.com/theosophycircle/
                                               		www.Theosophynyc.org
                                               		www.ultnyc.org

PARIS   ULT     (In French)              	www..theosophie.asso.fr
	[Original Theosophical literature translated into French]

                STUDY GROUPS (French language)
        Brest Study Group
        Dijon Study Group
        Douala Study Group
        Jacmel Study Group


PHOENIX  ULT         www.phx-ult-lodge.org/s

                Original Books, Texts  "on line"

	SECRET DOCTRINE 			HPB
	ISIS UNVEILED 				HPB
	FIVE YEARS OF THEOSOPHY		HPB, etc.
        	KEY TO THEOSOPHY & GLOSSARY 	HPB
	MODERN PANARION 			HPB
        	THEOSOPHICAL GLOSSARY 		HPB
	TRANS  OF BLAVATSKY LODGE  	HPB
	VOICE OF THE SILENCE 			HPB

       	OCEAN OF THEOSOPHY  			Judge
       	      ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS AT AN 
		INFORMAL "OCEAN " CLASS 	R C
        	POINT OUT THE WAY   Ans. to 
		Questions at "Ocean" Class 		J G

        	BHAGAVAD GITA  				Judge
	BHAGAVAD GITA NOTES 			Judge
        	ECHOES FROM THE ORIENT 		Judge
        	EPITOME OF THEOSOPHY 		Judge
	LETTERS THAT HAVE HELPED ME	Judge 
        	PATANJALI'S YOGA SUTRAS 		Judge
        	THEOSOPHICAL FORUM  --  answers by   Judge 

        	DHAMMAPADA  ( Footfalls of the Law )  	Gautama Buddha
        	LIGHT OF ASIA,   Arnold  			Gautama
Buddha
LIGHT ON THE PATH 			M C

        	FRIENDLY PHILOSOPHER 		R C
	UNIVERSAL THEOSOPHY 			R C


	    [ For children ]

        	ETERNAL VERITIES  			R C
	Teach. Manual for ETERNAL VERITIES 	
	BECAUSE  -- for Children who ask Why?	R C
	BOOK OF IMAGES  				Dhyan Garga
TELL-TALE PICTURE GALLERY
		 - Occult  Stories by 		HPB and  W Q J

       	History  THE THEOSOPHICAL MOVEMENT ( 1875 - 1950)
				350 + pages  		($ 6.00)

-----------------------------------

SAN FRANCISCO  U L T         	ULTinSF@wbtv.net

SARASOTA U L T                   	www.theosophyusa.com

THEOSOPHY COMPANY              	www.theosophycompany.org
                                                 	www.ult.org
        (Photographic and verbatim original Theos. Texts)
        (Available in printed form.)

        The SECRET DOCTRINE  		HPB
        ISIS UNVEILED 			HPB
        KEY TO THEOSOPHY 			HPB
        VOICE OF THE SILENCE  		HPB
        H P B  ARTICLES  ( 3  Vols. )		HPB
        W Q J ARTICLES  ( 2  Vols. )		Judge
        A MODERN PANARION  		HPB 
        FIVE YEARS OF THEOSOPHY	HPB, etc.,
        TRANS OF  BLAVATSKY LODGE.   	HPB 


        LETTERS THAT HAVE HELPED ME  W Q Judge 
        THEOSOPHICAL FORUM -- answers   W Q Judge 


        THE DHAMMAPADA  ( Footfalls of the Law )  (Gautama Buddha)
        THE LIGHT OF ASIA  (Gautama Buddha)
        THE THEOSOPHICAL MOVEMENT ( 1875 - 1950)  History
        TELL-TALE PICTURE GALLERY -Occult  Stories by HPB and  W Q J


WASHINGTON, D. C.                	www.ultdc.org
	United Lodge of Theosophists - DC
	4865 Cordell Ave., 2nd Floor, Bethesda, MD 20814

		www.ultdc.org 
		- (301) 656-3566 
		- email@ultdc.org

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	OTHER SOURCES AND LINKS:

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AQUARIAN THEOSOPHIST            ultinla@juno.net
	archived    			 www.teosofia.com/AT.html

        [ Monthly magazine  &  Suplements, 
			Email - free]


BLAVATSKY NET                www.http://www.blavatsky.net  
        [ Original Texts and Articles available for reading and
                downloading  Links - membership free ]

	Talk list
www.blavatsky.net/member/membership_form.htm. 

	Newsletter  (monthly)		newsletter@blavatskymail.com


CONCORD GROVE PRESS            www.theosophy.org/home.htm 
        [ U L T  Santa Barbara,   

	VIDYA magazine and
        		Articles by B P WADIA, etc., on Theosophy )

					www.teosofiskakompaniet.net
	also:
        BUILDING THE HOME by B. P. WADIA


MANAS MAGAZINE  [1948-1986]       www.manasjournal.org
	[Available on CD:  
	    Text, Index, Search engine ]


PHOENIX  ULT                             	www.phx-ult-lodge.org/
        [ "On-line" reprints, of

             SECRET DOCTRINE  	1888		HPB
	 ISIS UNVEILED 		1877		HPB
	 FIVE MESSAGES from HPB   1888-1891	HPB
	 FIVE YEARS OF THEOSOPHY  articles	HPB
 	 KEY TO THEOSOPHY & GLOS     1889     HPB
	 LETTERS  of  HPB to A P SINNETT	HPB
	 MODERN PANARION, A  	articles by 	HPB
	 THEOSOPHICAL GLOSSARY   1892	HPB
        	 TRANSACTIONS BLAVATSKY LODGE  HPB 
	 VOICE OF THE SILENCE   	1889 	HPB
	 INDEX to The VOICE OF THE SILENCE 

	THEOS. ARTICLES & NOTES	HPB, Judge, etc.
           	 
        	 FRIENDLY PHILOSOPHER 		R C
        	 ETERNAL VERITIES  (for children)	R C
	 BECAUSE  -- for Children who ask Why?	R C
	 UNIVERSAL THEOSOPHY 			R C
       	 ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS at an 
		informal "Ocean " class   		R C
        	 POINT OUT THE WAY   Answers to 
		Questions at an "Ocean" Class	J G

	 OCEAN OF THEOSOPHY 	1893	 	Judge
	 BHAGAVAD GITA  (Krishna) rendition by	Judge
	 BHAGAVAD GITA NOTES 		Judge
	 ECHOES FROM THE ORIENT 		Judge
        	 EPITOME OF THEOSOPHY 		Judge
       	 PATANJALI'S YOGA SUTRAS 		Judge
        	 LETTERS THAT HAVE HELPED ME  	Judge
       	 Answers in the THEOSOPHICAL FORUM  Judge
	 SUBJECTS FOR DISCUSSION		Judge
	 TWO ANSWERS [Judge Case]		Judge

        	 DHAMMAPADA  ( Footfalls of the Law ) 	Buddha
        	 THE LIGHT OF ASIA  (Life & Teachings)   Buddha
	 LIGHT ON THE PATH  			MC
	 Gods & Heroes of the BHAGAVAD GITA 

       	 History: The THEOSOPHICAL MOVEMENT ( 1875 - 1950)  
	 UNITED  LODGE OF THEOSOPHISTS : 
				Its Mission and Future
				

RUDY'S PAGE     [Spanish]               www.teosofia.com/
	[Magazines reprinted:

	THEOSOPHICAL MOVEMENT, Bombay,  monthly ]
					http://www.teosofia.com/TTM.html

	AQUARIAN THEOSOPHIST  archived    	
					 www.teosofia.com/AT.html



THEOSOPHIA				theosophia@yahoogroups.com 
	(Discussion exchange group - E-mail - free)



THEOSOPHICAL LITERATURE
                       	http://www2.widbey.com/TheosophicalLiterature



THEOSOPHICAL MOVEMENT Magazine
        (reprints available)                    	www.teosofia.com/
					http://www.teosofia.com/TTM.html
					www.ultindia.org



THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETY PASADENA           
					www.theosociety.org


THEOSOPHICAL UNIVERSITY PRESS
 
www.theosociety.org/tupress/
tupress@theosociety.org 
        [ SUNSET, (monthly) and edited Theosophical Texts ]



THEOSOPHY COMPANY,             	www.theosophy company.org
        Los Angeles                             	www.ult.org
        [ THEOSOPHY Magazine, quarterly ]  and
        [Original Theosophical texts  Mme. Blavatsky, W Q Judge ]
 
www.theosophycompany.org/
               	 www.theosophycompany.org/pop_up_htmls/texte_online.html



THEOSOPHY DISCOVERY CIRCLE
		www.geocities.com/theosophycircle
        [ Study and Discussion, New York City]



THEOSOPHY LIBRARY ON LINE    www.theosophy.org/home.htm
        [ U L T  Santa Barbara,   Concord Grove Press)



THEOSOPHY Magazine                 	www.theosophycompany.org/editors
        [ THEOSOPHY Magazine, Quarterly, Los Angeles  ]



THEOS-TALK                 		Theos-Talk@yahoogroups.com 
        (Discussion exchange group - E-mail - free)



THEOSOPHY WORLD                 	Theos-World@yahoogroups.com
        [ Monthly Magazine, E-mail only]



VIDYA Magazine (quarterly)            www.theosophy.org/home.htm



WISDOM WORLD                           www.wisdomworld.org/setting.html 
        [Reprints from THEOSOPHY Magazine - many topics
                and subjects covered.  Index available.]


=========================================


        THEOSOPHICAL TEXTS ON-LINE

        _______________________________


BLAVATSKY  NET                         		www.blavatsky.net
	[Offers access to all texts ]

MANAS MAGAZINE			www.manasjournal.org 
	[Available on CD:  Text, Index ]


PHOENIX  ULT
www.phx-ult-lodge.org/
	[Offers "Original Theosophical Texts" 
	for reading or downloading]


THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETY, Pasadena         www.theosociety.org
	

THEOSOPHICAL UNIVERSITY PRESS    	www.theosociety.org/tupress/
	[Offers full range of Theosophical Texts]


THEOSOPHY COMPANY              	www.theosophycompany.org
                                                 	www.ult.org
	[Publishes full range of Original Theosophical texts,
	Catalog available on request.]


THEOSOPHY-TALK                 	Theos-Talk@yahoogroups.com 
        (Discussion exchange group - E-mail - free)



THEOSOPHY WORLD                 	Theos-World@yahoogroups.com
        [ Monthly Magazine, E-mail only]


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        ASSOCIATED SOURCES
        ______________________


"Alexandria West"	[ e-mail ]	alexandriawest@charter.net 


Australian sections (Adyar) 
	comprehensive reading list.
http://www.austheos.org.au/readinglist.htm


Blavatsky Archives                           	www.blavatskyarchives.com/


Blavatsky Foundation                     	www.azstarnet.com/blafon


BLAVATSKY  NET                        	www.blavatsky.net


Blavatsky Online Reading Room	www.blavatsky.net/Caldwell/index.htm


BLAVATSKY TRUST (U K)           	www.blavatskytrust.org


CONCORD GROVE PRESS            	www.theosophy.org/home.htm 
        	( Wadia articles reprinted,  VIDYA Magazine,  Santa Barbara)


EXPLORING THEOSOPHY
                        http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dp5  


FOHAT  Magazine   	
		E-mail:       		fohat@telusplanet.net


IN THE LIGHT OF THEOSOPHY
 
www.blavatsky.net/ezine/light/inthelight.htm


LUCIFER 7	[monthly - Adyar]
http://www.katinkahesselink.net/other/


MANAS MAGAZINE			www.manasjournal.org 
	[Available on CD:  Text, Index ]


MODERN THEOSOPHY     
	
www.geocitieskatinkaHasselink/other/other.htm


POINT LOMA PUBLICATIONS		www.wisdomtrations.com 


 QUEST BOOKS  [T S    Wheaton, Ill.]
http://www.questbooks.net/aboutquest.cfm



 SPANISH 	www2.widbey.net/Theosophical Literature/espagnol.htm
                        www.Teosofia.com/PT.html

   	E-mail:			pregunta@theosophycompany.org



T S ONLINE LIBRARY (Sta. Barbara)
	
www.theosophical.org/resources/library/webcat/index.html



THEOSOPHIA				theosophia@yahoogroups.com 
	(Discussion exchange group - E-mail - free)


THEOSOPHICAL UNIVERSITY PRESS    	www.theosociety.org/tupress/
	[Offers full range of Theosophical Texts]


THEOSOPHICAL PUBLISHING HOUSE, Wheaton, Ill. 
	[Edited texts]		http://www.questbooks.net/aboutquest.cfm



THEOSOPHICAL RADIO	http://www.theosophical.org/theosophy/radio/



TEMPLE OF THE PEOPLE	http://www.templeofthepeople.org



WISDOM WORLD              	www.wisdomworld.org/setting.html 
        [Reprints from THEOSOPHY Magazine - many topics
                and subjects covered.  Index available.]


=======================================


THEOSOPHY FOR THE BLIND	[Adyar]

	THE THEOSOPHICAL BOOK ASSOCIATION FOR THE BLIND.
		516 N. LUCAS DRIVE
		SANTA MARIA, CA. 93454-3828
                                                
	Dr. K. Elin   	(cell)  	1-805-448-1424
			e-mail	cranwilliams@earthlink.net


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-----Original Message-----
From: theos  T. H. Hauw
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 6:14 PM
To: 
Subject: Self-Intro, and disappointment


Hi all,

My name is Hauw. I live in Singapore. The TS lodge here was formed by Col.
Olcott and 19 other people in 1889. I became a member in the beginning of
this year and subscribed to theos-talk at about the same time.

Like most people, I joined TS because I want to know more about the meaning
of life and want to increase my self-knowledge and awareness further. I am
waiting for a basic course on Theosophy to commence in March at our lodge.
Meanwhile I am searching high and low to have a better understanding of
Theosophy. So far, I must say that most of the material (incl. most   from
this discussion group) that I have come across are too wordy and difficult
to absorb. Can anyone recommend any beginners books written by modern-day
writers?

It's also confusing. I read that there are different lineages e.g. Annie
Besant (and CWL) of the Adyar TS and William Judge of Point Loma. A
university website even said that their teachings are different from the
original teaching of HPB in some areas. Then, after HPB many people also
claimed that they have contact with the Masters. Finally I also read about
the charge against CWL concerning young boys.

So I joined theos-talk thinking that the older souls here might be able to
clear things up a bit. But alas that's not to be; there are just too many
unhealthy exchanges among some members here!

How are new students of Theosophy to make sense out of all the above? We
don't want to dogmatise or institutionalise TS, it's not a religion. But I
wonder if some form of agreed framework, guidelines or decision-making
process would be better to the cause of Theosophy?

I also came across postings here which I think (I may be wrong) is on
Hinduism teachings. I don't think Theosophy is entirely the same as Hinduism
or Buddhism; is there any form of moderation here?

Cheers

T H Hauw

P.S. When responding to a post, can members try to delete the original
content, save those points that they are responding to, before sending? That
way, all the postings will be neater and easier to read.






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