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Every Challenge is an Opportunity

Feb 09, 2006 01:08 PM
by carlosaveline cardoso aveline

Adelasie, Bruce, Friends,

I want to say that I agree.

I would add that perhaps we should be fundamentally constructive in our action,
though capable of seing the mistakes, mainly our own, secondarily the mistakes of others.

As to what keeps the various theosophical groups separate, that is a fundamental question with no easy answer.

Perhaps a list of practical steps people could take right now would include:

a) to improve whatever mutual help mechanisms there are;

b) to try to honestly examine differences in views in a basiclly respectful way, though with frankness -- and to remember no one is the sole owner of Truth. In fact, no one owns Truth, not even partially, we can only belong to It unconditionally.


From: "adelasie" <>
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Every Challenge is ...
Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 13:43:38 -0800

Hi Bruce,

You bring up interesting questions, particularly in light of the
foundation of Theosophy, the Unity of all Life.

> Has anyone ever analyzed the problem herein contained?  We have people
> following Crosbie, Besant, Tingley, and perhaps Hargrove.  None of
> these people are alive today making it impossible to know for sure why
> they followed the paths that they did.  What we do know is what they
> claimed to be trying to accomplish with their various organizations.
> Do we look at the various Societies as describing different lineages?
> What was at the heart of each of these people's efforts and how
> successful were they in their efforts?  What is there of any real
> importance that continues to keep these organizations separate?  Does
> it matter that we have separate organizations?  How do we approach
> this whole matter constructively?  It seems to me there is a Gordian
> knot that if cut would pave the way to a less confrontational future.

Like everything else there is, this is probably just a matter of
consciousness. We can choose to see and propagate separation, or we
can choose to see and propagate unity. One way is the way of Light,
the other leads to darkness. It is ever the crux of any decision in
life. Which do we choose? Life or death? Theosophy is pretty clear on
which is which.

> Bruce
> --- In, "Frank Reitemeyer" <ringding@...>
> wrote: > > =>Such efforts are now new, and they are not > original. We
> have had persons of > this typeattacking H.P.B.'s work all the time >
> since the mid-1880s. We also > have had people successfully defending
> Theosophy > all along.  Yet -- there is > something sad about this. >
> > Does this criticism also include the ULT policy, > which opposed the
> humanitarian and occult work of > Katherine Tingley, who continued
> HPB's work and > fulfilled her last hope to build a Mystery School >
> in the West? It is well know about HPB students > that she died not
> before her closest co-worker > William Judge was able to confirm her
> that he has > found her successor. > Why did the ULT tried to
> crystallize the evolution > of the Theosophical Movement and
> propagated a > status quo of OUTER FORMS? > > =>The very existence of
> students who try to live > up to the inner side of > H.P.B.'s
> Teachings seems to gravely offend these > poor people.  This is >
> unfortunate. No sincere student could ever aim at > that. > > One can
> only wish that these aggressive skeptics > will understand and accept
> > the existence of such a thing as an occult life > and spiritual
> path. > > In other words Point Loma students should direct > all their
> compassion to ULT students, who opposed > KT's spiritual work (which
> included the > preparation of Blavatsky's Collected Writings and > the
> complete edition of all Mahatma Letters to > Sinnett). > > =>The lack
> of respect that these skeptics seem to > show for the inner instances
> > of the theosophical movement  might be connected > to a lack of
> respect they > have for their own inner consciousness and >
> conscience. > > In other words ULT people like Robert Crosbie >
> opposed the work of the messenger of the Masters > merely because of
> their lack of consciousness and > conscience? > > >As paradoxes are
> part of the occult life, there > >is a bright side to this. > Esoteric
> philosophy states that great > opportunities are generally in direct >
> proportion to the difficulty of challenges. > > In other words
> students of KT should thank Crosbie > and other foes to give the white
> side an > opportunity for growth!? > > There must be evil in the
> world, but watch that it > is not you who does it. > Frank >
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