Theos-Talk Archives (October 2002 Message tt00237)

Steve:I am anyway under the impression that some serious 
research is going on in Australia, especially in the medical field, 
although I do not know to what extent aborigines are contributing or 
involved.

Brian: Australia is a modern country, I have been there three times.
Perth, the fastest growing city reminded me of San Diego, Cairns had 
strong similarities with Honolulu although due to its climate is more like =

Florida. I liked Darwin because it is modern has lots of greenery 
between each of the inner city buildings yet it is small, and direct on top=
 
of a hill overlooking the ocean. 

As far as aborigines involved with the medical field I haven't researched 
that, but the point is all people in this world should be allowed to live 
especially if they don't bother others. 

As you mentioned none of them would died out unless trough intentional 
genocide. Hitler tried this with 6 million Jewish people. The Mahatma 
Letters predicted it should happen to 
the "Malaysians""Chinamen" "Thibetans" and many many others. But to 
just take Malaysia itself (I was there twice) Kuala Lumpur (Along with 
Shanghai as a matter of fact) is one of the most modern city's in the 
world, the Petro twin towers in KL are (still) the highest building in the=
 
world to date. 

The "Hierarchie" in line with "The Mahatma letters" to A.P.Sinnet, A. 
Baily/Dwal Khul proclaimed on the day that the atom bomb was 
dropped on Nagasaki that it was ushering in a new age by releasing 
cosmic energy, linking the nuclear flash with the Light of the initiate. 

Surely even more disturbing is the neo-theosophists view on the effect 
of using the atomic firestorm on thousands of living Japanese. Bailey / D. =

K. go on to say that the Japanese, whose nervous system is of the 4th 
root-race, were due to be destroyed" … and the consequent release of 
their imprisoned souls is a necessary happening; it is the justification of=
 
the use of the atomic bomb on the Japanese population."

(A. Baily, The Externalization of the Hierarchy, p. 497)

But according to the Mahatmas many more atom bombs would have to 
be thrown on China plus on the rest of Asia because now all 
these "Chinamen" that K.H. wrote about included "Thibetans" are still 
alive worldwide, together with the many other 4e race people that  
make up the majority of the world population that time, and now. In fact 
K.H. was aware of that because he wrote"  

"The highest race (physical intellectuality) is the last sub-race of the 
fifth -- yourselves the white conquerors. The majority of mankind 
belongs to the seventh sub-race of the fourth Root race, -- the above 
mentioned Chinamen and their off-shoots and branchlets (Malayans, 
Mongolians, Tibetans, Javanese, etc., etc., etc.) and remnants of other 
sub-races of the fourth -- and the seventh sub-race of the third race. All =

these, fallen, degraded semblances of humanity." (Mahatma K.H. to 
Sinnet, This letter is on the internet see search engine below)

With "White" Brotherhood, the Mahatmas ("The elder Brother " from 
Aryan Atlantis ) seem to identify themselves as white "Aryans," not 
even Indians whom they themselves wrote should be "conquered" 
(Mahatma Letters to Sinnet in INDIA "yourselves the white conquerors")

That many white N.Americans gave their live in the American civil war to 
end slavery shows the kind of racial ideas in the Mahatma letters (the 
civil war took place many years before The Secret Doctrine was written) 
was NOT entirely obvious during the time of Blavatsky and the Great 
White Brotherhood hoax (pardon, but that is what I think of it). 

And that also among the "British Conquerors" racism wasn't as obvious 
as the Mahatma letters wanted to have it as evidenced by Hume ONE of 
the TWO principal in initial recipients of the Mahatma letters, who 
complained about the above with K.H. and K.H. frankly wrote back:

"You cannot think that we, who have such tremendous odds against the 
acceptance of our doctrine would deliberately go on inventing Races and 
sub-races were not they a matter of undeniable fact."(K.H.)

In fact anybody can search the index of the Mahatma letters for 
themselve, they are full of the above stuff, see:
                       
http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/psearch.htm 

It is obvious that there is a direct connection to for example the 
Mahatma Letters that state "yourselves the white conquerors. The 
majority of mankind 
belongs to the seventh sub-race of the fourth Root race, -- the above 
mentioned Chinamen and their off-shoots and branchlets (Malayans, 
Mongolians, Tibetans, Javanese, etc., etc., etc.)" And Theosophists like 
Annie Besant and others that claimed "Colonial expansion and territorial 
conquest as a migration of races for the ultimate enrichment of 
the "Fifth Race." This sweep of time, measured in aeons and evolving 
land-masses, dissolves the political immediacy of imperialism. The race 
of Teutons, the fifth sub-race of the Fift Race, is now spreading over the =

world, has occupied greater part of North America, driving before it the 
old Atlantean stock; it has seized Australia and New Zealand, remnants 
of still more ancient Lemuria, and the poor relic that dying Race are 
vanishing before it. High is it rearing its proud head over the countries o=
f 
the globe, destined to build a world-wide Empire, and to sway the 
destinies of the civilization." 

See also the 1925 Jubilee Convention, the Theosophical Society 
declared as one of its aims the establishment of a World Government 
(Ransom, A short History of the TS ,1950, p. 23.)

The public announcement of leading Theosophists as the reincarnation 
of the 12 Apostles, and Krishnamurti as the World Teacher, was clearly 
foreshadowed by Besants earlier claim in an interview with the 
newspaper The Vote, that "if the powers of the British monarchy were 
fully restored in India, then 11 great souls" would be sent to fill the 
office. =
 
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Brian

--- In theos-talk@y..., "Steve Stubbs" <stevestubbs@y...> wrote:
> --- In theos-talk@y..., "Frank Reitemeyer" <dhyana@w...> wrote:
> > Wrong. When HPB writes "are dying out" she does not refer in the 
> first line
> > to the physical plane but to the intellectual and spiritual.
> > So a race which has no more manasic power may be still present in 
> the
> > physical world.
> 
> I don't know how it reads in the German translation, but if you check 
> the original English, HPB first refers to the Tasmanians as being 
> completely dead in the strictly physical sense, which they were, then 
> says the Australian aborigines were "rapidly dying out." This 
> clearly refers to their imminent physical demise, and yet they are 
> still wuth us.
> 
> You have the right to argue that the editorial committee screwed the 
> MS up, but that is a dangerous door to open because it brings into 
> question the integrity of the rest of the book as well as the 
> committee left it to us. If rhey distorted HPB's ideas in one place, 
> then what assurance do we have that any other part of it is correct?
> 
> > If all races the world over would possess at the same time all 
> available
> > higher powers we would have not higher and inferior races - and 
> without
> > having higher and inferior races we would not need the first aim of
> > Universal Brotherhood.
> 
> ????
> 
> > So HPB again is vindicated. You stay corrected to show the leading 
> role of
> > the aborigines in poetry, architecture, industry, technology, 
> philosophy.
> 
> I am not sure of your point. There are countries all over the world 
> which are producing zero in the way of intellectual property. Why 
> would you want to single out Australia? I am not clear what you are 
> getting at here. I am anyway under the impression that some serious 
> research is going on in Australia, especially in the medical field, 
> although I do not know to what extent aborigines are contributing or 
> involved.