Theos-Talk Archives (October 2002 Message tt00114)

Bart: But Europeans seem that it is a command of God to kill all the
Jews.

Brian: Well in the context of current day governments in Europe this 
might be an exaggeration.(I hope) 
But looking at the historical occurrences and the various 
transformations of ant-Semitism, anti-Semitism today could be said to 
exist in the form of a virus of the mind. (this is just a personal 
expression)

Not always on the surface, but it is there. And it's entirely build on myth, 
that has been added to and added to.
Brian

--- In theos-talk@y..., Bart Lidofsky <bartl@s...> wrote:
> Frank Reitemeyer wrote:
> > 
> > Bart:
> > Ignoring the fact that a group called "The Palestinians" didn't exist
> > until the 1970's, it was the Jews to whom the British assured a state 
of
> > their own.
> > 
> > Frank:
> > Wrong. The Palestinians are the native people of Palestine and 
were there
> > before the 1970's.
> 
> Please find a pre-1967 reference to a the term "Palestinians". 
> > Bart:
> > The only attacks against the Arabs have been in retaliation. Israel
> > unilaterally stopped all attacks several times, requesting that the
> > Palestinians respond in kind. They didn't.
> > 
> > Frank:
> > Wrong. The Palestines are living in tents since many decades and 
the 
> > Jews don't fulfill their promises.
> 
> The Arab nations are the ones who put the Palestinians in 
tents, not
> Israel. 
> 
> > Frank:
> > > The Jews await the second coming of the Messias and they only a 
few
> > > years to bring the majority of the Jews of the World to their 
unholy
> > > land.
> > 
> > Bart:
> > What does one have to do with the other?
> > 
> > Frank:
> > Explains the motive.
> 
> Answer the question. What does bringing a majority of the 
Jews in the
> world to Israel have to do with the coming of the Messiah?
> 
> 
> > Bart:
> > Can you show me where in Jewish scripture the above is written, 
because
> > I have never heard that before.
> > 
> > Frank:
> > There is much in the OT. Vide f.e. Jer 12, 14-15, Jer. 16, 14-15; 1 
Mos. 49,
> > 1+8, 5 Mos. 4, 27+30, Jes. 62, 10-12.
> 
> Jer 12, 14-15: Speaks of an action of God, not an order for the people.
> Jer 16, 14-15: Speaks of an action of God, not an order for the people.
> 1 Mos. 49: 1+8 ??????
> 5 Mos. 4, 27+30 ??????
> Jes 62, 10-12 ???????
> 
> > Jerusalem as the World Capital is interpreted from Matthew 5, 35.
> 
> So all those Christian Jews follow that one. 
> 
> > 50 years from 1917 brings us to 1967, when Israel was leading its 
Great 
> > War in interpretation of 3 Mos. 25, 10-13.
> 
> What is Mos????????
> 
> > On June 7, 1967, (fulfillment of psalm 122) and 70 years after the 
> > first proclamation of the claims on Jerusalem at the first Zionist 
> > Congress in Basle in 1897, the old town of Jerusalem was occupied 
by 
> > the Israel army, which is the fulfilling of Sach 1, 12-17.
> 
> Sach??????
> 
> > When the Israelis were marching-in thru the lion gate, the priests of 
> > the Grave Church were singing Jes. 62, 10-12.
> 
> Jes?????
> 
> > Then the highest military rabbi Shlomo Goren appeared with a 
Thora role 
> > and said: "Now we are entering the Messianic Age."
> 
> So? Jews had been kept away from their holy sites, in 
violation of a
> U.N. order to keep the city of Jerusalem open to all, since 1948. The
> Jews finally got into it. 
> 
> > He also said that the Jews in France, Germany and Russia are in 
danger
> > and he wants them to immigrate to Israel were up to 2020 the 
majority 
> > of the Jews of the world should live.
> > Is that a command of God?
> 
> No. But Europeans seem that it is a command of God to kill 
all the
> Jews.
> 
> Bart