Theos-Talk Archives (March 2002 Message tt00575)

-Jerry: "Isis is a hodgepodge. The best part is the last chap
which deals with magic, and sadly this is the part that most
Theosophsts 
today ignore."

The last chapter is what was obviously at the same time intended as a 
sort of advertisement/invitation (in typical Victorian age veieled 
fashion) to the newly founded TS that according to Dr. James 
Santucci, Dr. Mathiesen, and Deveney (who wrote a Dr. thesis about 
Randolph), all three claim based on their extensive research that 
the TS started originally as a Theurgic organisation involved 
with "magic", astral projection and with that drug induced
states incorporated in a Masonic type degree system.

It should also be noted that Mesmeric, and also the Egyptian lodges
of Cagliostro alias Balsamo, where not recognized as Masonic lodges
by regular Freemasons, the above belonged to the hundreds of imitating
so called "frince " Masonic Lodges that where mostly small and
somethimes included charlatans.

Following the Frince Masonic degrees Blavatsky and the early TS in
New York and India (Adyar) used:  
http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/aqc/fringe/appendix2.html

The above is obviously rather fake, see also the following letter
reg. the above.   

On 25 Jan, 1878 Kenneth Mackenzie wrote to Francis Irwin, co-member 
in the Order of Sikha: 
„I hear that madam Blavatsky is the head of the Order!" (R.A. 
Gilbert "Revelations of the Golden Dawn" '97 p. 5-6, and Ellic 
Howe "Frince Masonry in England" ) This is confirmed in a never
before published letter from Yarker to Blavatsky dated 2 Jan, 1879: 
http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a7502210/blavletter.html

This is a picture of the co-founder of the order:

 
http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a7502210/picture.html


Blavatsky wrote on Sept. 23, 1875: 

"We want to make an experimental comparison between spiritualism 
and the magic of the ancients by following literally the instructions
of the old Cabbalas, both Jewish and Egyptian." (Quoted in Deveney's 
booklet on Astral Travel and the TS)

Blavatsky stated in her interview March 1877 to the World 
Newspaper: "This separation, however, is the very last and highest 
possible achievement of magic." (A Lamasery in New York. Practicing 
Magical Rites in a Prosaic Eight-Avenue House. Quoted in Theosophical 
History 4/2, April 1992, p. 51-55.) 

Bri.: So astral travel had a lot to do with it from the beginning so
I think that is why Dallas, Caldwell, who also claims astral
visions, so vehemently fight answerring the astral body issue and
reg. The Masters trying to find al kinds of excuses to side track the
issues regarding the impossibility of the astral projection stories
if taken litteral.
Those who do have not studied the recent information on this subject.

 
 
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Bri.
Famous esotericist Rene Guenon in his book about the TS as the 
> invention of a pseudo-religion, alleges that HPB and 0lcott were
both 
> members of the Hermetic Brotherhood of Luxor (HBL), as was George 
> Felt, an early TS associate. Steve Stubbs has argued a similar 
> position.
> 
> K.Paul Johnson in has by now famous book "The Master Revealed, 
> writes on p.32 :
> C. J. jinarajadasa admits that in 1875 HPB used a seal "symbolic of
> the Brotherhood of Luxor" on her notepaper, but denies that this 
> Brotherhood was the same as the HBL.
> In May 1875, HPB had attempted to form a "Miracle Club" in response
> to orders received from Tuitit Bey "to begin telling the public the
> truth about the phenomena and their mediums.
> 
> During the following summer, 0lcott received a series of letters
from 
> Serapis, concerning the prospects of partnership with E. Gerry
Brown, 
> the brief marriage of HPB to Michael Betanelly, and his own status
as 
> a disciple of the Brotherhood of Luxor. The only doctrinal
references 
> in these letters arekabbalistic in tone. This tends to support 
> Guenon's hypothesis that Felt's interest in the Kabbalah and 
> Egyptology was an influence during that summer. By the end of 1875, 
> however, Felt had disappeared from the scene after failing to
produce 
> elementals as he had promised. 
> 
> The possible connection of Paolos Metamon to this series of 
> developments is suggested in a footnote, in which Guenon reports
that 
> according to unverified rumors, "Metamon was the father of another 
> personage who was for some time at the head of the outer circle of 
> the HBL and who, since then, has founded a new organization of a 
> rather different character, "It would seem, in light of this 
> unconfirmed anecdote, that a change within the HBL took place which 
> made it impossible for HPB and 01cott to continue as members. If it 
> had initially been led in its outer circle by the man tentatively 
> identified as Metamon's son, then taken over by another element,
this 
> could have led to the expulsion noted bv Guenon. What is undeniable 
> on the basis of Rawson's account and HPB's own admission, is that 
> Paolos Metamon was her first occult teacher in Egypt, who continued 
> to be in contact with her into the 1870s. This makes him the most 
> likely original for the Master Serapis, and his so-called son a 
> possible Tuitit Bey.(End quote)
> 
> One year ago when I was researching, and attempted to write, about 
> the Dalip Singh revolt/TS connection that was first brought up in
> Paul's TMR, I could not circumvent attempting to research 
> the "secret" Lodge activities of Blavatsky and Dayananda in
> India (see : 
> http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a7502210/dsconspiracy.html )
> 
> It is in this context that I also started to look into the
"beliefs" 
> of these early Theosophists and those around them had, and where 
> these beliefs in turn derived from, which led me to the current 
> study. The "invented-India" discovery I mentioned some months ago 
> And if I stay that long on these lists, I might place a series of 
> postings going more in detail regarding this "invented India" 
> subject, and after that the "invented Tibet" a series of 
> upcoming postings that I am currently laying the foundation for but 
> still needs a bit more work.
> 
> The last two decades of the eighteenth century as a period of major 
> religious innovation. Science and faith were syncretized by the 
> mesmerism of for example the Marquis de Puysegur and his 
followers. A 
> non-Christian form of religiosity had become an increasingly 
> available option in Europe by the end of the same decade. Since
then, 
> dozens of successful prophets have explained that their message is 
> logical and accords with the latest findings of science; that their 
> doctrines are not their own innovations but the fruits of ancient 
> tradition; and that they can be experienced in the life of every 
> person.
> 
> I mentioned the"Crata Repoa", mentioned in my previous posting on 
the 
> subject, of which I studied a copy in the one year ago re-
> opened "Bibliotheca Philosophica Hermetica" in Amsterdam, 
> (http://www.ritmanlibrary.nl/) where anybody can look it up.
> The "Crata Repoa" (misspelled "Napoa") in Isis of Blavatsky, was the
> constitution of the "Afrikanische Bauherren". The book describes
the 
> seven Grades of Egyptian Initiation in the system of Koeppen as I 
> explained earlier.
> 
> The Order influenced the esoteric and Egyptian rites of France,
rites
> which would finally develop into the "Ancient and Primitive Rite of 
> Memphis-Misraim". And lodges where also founded in Egypt, which in 
a 
> way is ironic. Blavatsky imported standard motifs of Western 
> esotericism into India and speedily arrayed them in local forms,
thus 
> fashioning an Indicised esotericism.
> 
> As the founders of Theosophy imported the purely English, pseudo-
> Indian Sat B'hai with as its upper degrees the Royal Order of
> Sikha into India the TS imported the "psuedo Egypt" that I have been
> referring to into India.
> I also showed how the invented Egypt sickered trough to books like 
> Evant-Wentz "Tibetan Book of the Death", and that Blavatsky
> while she was in India probably had connections to people related to
> "Memphis- Misraim" Egyptian Masonry: 
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/5041
> 
> But not only within Egyptian Masonry as such , but also within the
> Yarker circle in particular, to which first Sotheran and then also
> Blavatsky belonged 
> (http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a7502210/blavletter.html)
> there was a mistaken impression and an "inextricable reverie" that 
> existed in relation to the "De Theosophia Aegyptiorum" of Michael 
> Maier supposedly having to do with the early Rosicrucians. 
> 
> But instead Maier's "Rosicrucian" Leipzig manuscript is an 18th
> century myth arising within the Gold- und Rosenkreutz Freemasonic 
> order, first "exposed" by "Magister Pianco", then associated via 
> Yarker with the tale of Agrippa's secret society. 
> De Theosophia Aegyptiorum is in fact a rough draft for Maier's
Arcana 
> Arcanissima (1614), and therefore dates to Maier's pre-Rosicrucian 
> period, there is no other manuscript of Maier's to be found at the 
> University of Leipzig
> 
> 
>  
Bri.