Theos-Talk Archives (February 2002 Message tt00243)

Jerry: "Yogic meditation to activate the chakras and one's motive for 
doing so are two different things. Hindu tantricism is largely 
concerned with power, but Buddhist tantricism is concerned with 
compassion and helping others. How can one help spiritually unless 
one can experience spirituality? And how can one experience 
spirituality without activating the higher chakras?"

The "higher" (not in the sense of a Jacobs latter tough) have to do 
with "clear seeing," the eye doctrine, and intuition.

Bri. 

--- In theos-talk@y..., "Gerald Schueler" <gschueler@e...> wrote:
> 
> <<<<Nadis, chakras, plexi to my understanding all represent centers 
in physiological man's body that are reflections from the astral for 
specific purposes. Since H P B does not go into specifics, I
> guess they are known to her but are not discussed with a reason. 
Looking at 7-fold man one might guess that behind the astral stand 
various orders of pranic forces which would be dual in kind.>>>
> 
> Dallas, chakras are centers or foci, while nadis are channels. Two 
very different things, the nadis connect the chakras, and what passes 
through the nadis and activates the chakras is prana. I am not sure 
how much Blavatsky knew, other than the rudiments. But I have learned 
and studied this area for years and have activiated my own, to a 
degree, and so can speak with some experience on this subject.
> 
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> <<<<I find no reason to believe that activating those plexi by 
physiological disciplines as in hatha-yoga will lead the Man of Force 
and Decisions -- the Perceiver and Chooser within -- to real 
progress. But although there will be some effect, it probably lasts 
for a life-time at most and remains unregulated and relatively 
unknown by the time the body dies.>>>>
> 
> Not so. Yogic work on the chakras carries over from life to life. 
How else can we explain those folks who have spontaneous activations? 
The "effect" is to allow the human mind, manas, to confront spiritual 
forces and get to understand them. This is essential in order to join 
the triad of atma, buddhi, and manas together into a monad-like 
unity. This is, basically, the work of the chela, part of the Path to 
becoming an Adept.
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> 
> <<<But it doe not sound to me as though any of those
> practices are idealistic, altruistic and noble. Most are focused
> on the acquirement of personal powers and the potential
> subjugation of other and certain aspects of Nature to the
> personal will of the individual --- and that has all the
> ear-marks to me of black magic. >>>>
> 
> Dear Dallas, you are very wrong, and I am sorry that you feel this 
way. Yogic meditation to activate the chakras and one's motive for 
doing so are two different things. Hindu tantricism is largely 
concerned with power, but Buddhist tantricism is concerned with 
compassion and helping others. How can one help spiritually unless 
one can experience spirituality? And how can one experience 
spirituality without activating the higher chakras?
> 
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> 
> <<<Turning to the basis for world religions. Regardless of priestly
> overlays, how do they all stack up? I see great similarities in
> all, The objective, mainly is the improvement of man morally.>>>>
> 
> Please give us some examples of these similarities. I have studied 
the religions of the world for years without finding them. How does 
doing good deeds in order to get into heaven improve morality? Once 
again, we get back to motive.
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> 
> <<<The virtues are all similar.>>>
> 
> And they are also relative.
> 
> Enough for now. Have a nice day.
> 
> Jerry S.
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