Theos-Talk Archives (November 2001 Message tt00525)

Daniel: "Hartmann's novel but please explain the relevance of what 
you have quoted to the observations that I have given"
If Hartmann decides to end his book about his experience with "the 
talking image" with this conclusion, don't you think he might have a 
reason for it ? And if so, what could this reason be Daniel ?
What the essence of Hartmann's novel in regards to the Masters, it 
is as follows;

In the "Talking Image of Urur" Hartmann describes a "Mysterious 
Brotherhood's" 
best known members as "Rataborumatchi and Krashibashi", plus 
the "talking image"(apparently HPB) that, "reflects like a mirror the 
prejudices of the inquirerrs and merely confirms their 
superstitions"...
Hartmann proceeds that: "No man can teach another the truth if the 
truth does not manifest itself in and through him." But, "what about 
the about the Mysterious Brotherhood?" asked Pancho (apparently 
Hartmann himself): "He received no answer.-before his eyes a great 
transformation took place--there was notting of a material character 
left." (more excerpts will follow soon)
In March 1889 Blavatsky wrote an article for Lucifer entitled "On 
Pseudo-Theosophy" in wich she responded to a "Daily News" story about 
Hartmann's story. The newspaper reported that some Theosophists were 
distressed by its publication, and suggested that "the misgivings 
that have been awakened will not easily be laid to rest." 
Blavatsky replies that it is precicely in order to awaken misgivings 
in those who should recognize themselves in Hartman's tale that she 
publishing it. But although some where offended , Blavatsky 
asked "if Mme. Blavatsky-presumebly the 'Talking Image'- does not 
object to finding herself repressented as a kind of mediumistic poll 
parrot, why should other 'theosohists' object?"(H.P.Blavatsky, 
Collected Writings, vol.11,p.46.)

In his non-fiction report Hartmann's conlusian as he described it 
in "Some Fragments of The Secret History of The Theosophical Society" 
Hartmann's mentioned similar:

"There seems to be a general desire on the part of the followers of 
Madame Blavatsky to represent many of these so-called occult letters 
as something more than what they really are, namely poetical fictions 
extended to the physical plane for the purpose of making spiritual 
truths palatable to the ignorant, and to make use of the credulity 
and superstition of the wonder-loving, to teach them something useful 
and good."
So did he mean what he wrote (in spite of additional things he wrote 
later) or not ?


Brigitte

I will as much time permits try to also type some larger quotes from 
Hartmann's book regarding the talking image.