Theos-Talk Archives (November 2001 Message tt00292)

Below the essential message from : Hartmann's The Talking Image of 
Urur.

Already during Blavatsky's lifetime Hartman revealed part of the 
true nature of the "Theosophical Masters".
In the parts of "Talking Image of Urur"(1889) that where published 
by Blavatsky in Lucifer, it describes a "Mysterious Brotherhood's" 
best known members as "Rataborumatchi and Krashibashi", plus 
the "talking image"(apparently HPB) that, "reflects like a mirror the 
prejudices of the inquirerrs and merely confirms their 
superstitions"...
Hartmann proceeds that: "No man can teach another the truth if the 
truth does not manifest itself in and through him." But, "what about 
the about the Mysterious Brotherhood?" asked Pancho (apparently 
Hartmann himself): "He received no answer.-before his eyes a great 
transformation took place--there was notting of a material character 
left." (more excerpts will follow soon)

In March 1889 Blavatsky wrote an article for Lucifer entitled "On 
Pseudo-Theosophy" in wich she responded to a "Daily News" story about 
Hartmann's story. The newspaper reported that some Theosophists were 
distressed by its publication, and suggested that "the misgivings 
that have been awakened will not easily be laid to rest." 
Blavatsky replies that it is precicely in order to awaken misgivings 
in those who should recognize themselves in Hartman's tale that she 
publishing it. But although some where offended , Blavatsky 
asked "if Mme. Blavatsky-presumebly the 'Talking Image'- does not 
object to finding herself repressented as a kind of mediumistic poll 
parrot, why should other 'theosohists' object?"(H.P.Blavatsky, 
Collected Writings, vol.11,p.46.)
There is however a consistency with the above, and what Hartmann 
wrote about his experiences in Adyar during the time of Blavatsky 
lived there (Hartmann accompanied Blavatsky to Europe 
afterwards): " " (1897)

The letters Daniel Caldwell quotes about Hartmann are ALL from a much 
earlier date then the above two quotes. Obviously Hartmann had the 
opportunity to make certain observations during and afther the time 
that he was living in Adyar,(as already mentioned he travelled 
Blavatsky to Europe afther she left Adyar) , that made him take on 
the above position. Even when Reitemeyer/Caldwell might want to argue 
Hartmann wrote the "Talking Image of Urur" as a satire (whereas many 
would argue a satire is a good opprtunity to tell the truth ), 
certainly the last quote above is not from a satire but from a 
published "report" by Hartmann, and both the satire and the quote 
from the factual report indeed match. and are real, wichever way 
Reitemeyer/Caldwell will try to sweep it under the carpet . (But 
Frank dissapears each time when I ask him about his fake protocols)

Brigitte