Re: [jcs-online] Re: Reductionism
Apr 18, 2001 02:53 AM
by leonmaurer
In a message dated 04/16/01 pgm@enternet.com.au
(Peter Main) writes:
>>From the point of view of one demanding incontrovertible proof, certainly
>there's no proof that brains alone generate conscious experience. But
>here another maxim underlying all of science comes into play - the principle
>of parsimony: entities should not be postulated beyond necessity. So long
>as our level of understanding leaves it possible for brains alone to create
>our conscious experience, it is inappropriate to involve any further factor.
Since when (without considering the conditioning, desires or fears of
individual scientists) is science content to rest its principles upon a
particular level of understanding without attempting to increase that level?
Would modern physics be where it is today if classical science wasn't
superseded by a higher level of understanding given scientists by relativity,
and again, through quantum physics? (Both of which, nevertheless, are still
far from being in fundamental agreement.)
Where do we draw the line and refuse to consider other factors that could
result in an entirely new paradigm effectively relegating those limited
concepts to the dust bin of history (without, of course, changing their value
in the limited theoretical and technological areas of their applications)?
But, neither of them comes anywhere close to explaining the experience or
source of consciousness, the mechanism of awareness or will, nor the
linkages, mechanisms, or paths of information transfer between body, brain,
mind, and sense of individual self.
>The commonly held background assumptions and working principles of
>mainstream science have served us well for centuries, and not about to
>be lightly dismissed, not even for consciousness science. That is why
>virtually no serious scientists or philosophers are dualists.
Does this mean that "serious scientists" are wrong in recognizing that
radiative and non-radiative energy, of which all things are fundamentally
made up of, has a dualistic nature of both wave and particle, and that matter
is both tangible mass and intangible energy -- simultaneously? If not
dualists, then -- what are such scientists and philosophers basing their
theories on? Is it monism? Or is it trinitism? If either, which one is
correct?
In light of these questions, I would suggest, that we should consider that
dualism can only be wrong if one or the other *isms* are right. Which one
could that be? It can't be monism. For, if that were a correct standpoint in
principle, the dual aspects of quantum wave-particle theories would have no
basis in reality. Neither would the energy-mass equivalency theories of
relativity. But these two sciences don't even jibe with each other. One
view can allow the extension of the universe from zero to infinity, but the
other keeps bouncing particles around between finite Planck distances and
quantum wave lengths -- with both of them misinterpreting the nature of time.
So what's missing? Where's the one, all encompassing synthesis that science
with all its many divergent analyses and hypotheses so sorely needs?
Could it be that monism and dualism, when taken individually and exclusively
are neither of them right (except in their limited sense)? But, that would
leave only trinitism -- which is, in essence, the synthesis of both monism
and dualism. (Incidentally, making both of them correct -- when considered
together synthetically as part of a higher triunity:-).
So. let's see where that might lead.
A trinitarist (or should I say, Trinitarianist?) might say, as a background
assumption and working principle, that the Universe and all of the things in
it (being holistically one thing) must, nevertheles, be composed of a minimum
of three separately existent, although interdependent aspects or *entities*
(which can be ultimately expressed as 3-dimensional *fields*) that act (1) as
the container and motivator of all (e.g., space, spin, primal energy, etc.),
and (2, 3) as dual functional polar aspects which gives to any subordinate
structures or phenomenal entities their dual nature of subject-object,
wave-particle, consciousness-matter, energy-mass, brain-mind, idea-thought,
blueprint-construction, positive-negative, cause-effect, etc.... With the
possibility of extending such oppositions through all conceptions and
constructions throughout both inner and outer "space" as far as one can
imagine. Thus, all things would be related to either polarities or
neutrality's, indeterminacy's or finalities, insubstantiality'sn energy
source having an essential dual polarity.
This, of course (eliminating the singular source) is the real basis of all
dualistic thinking. But, such duality's cannot exist outside of the holistic
field that contains and supports them. Thus both monism and dualism,
independently, are each limited and, therefore, wrong as a basis of analysis
or hypothesis... But when any of the dual polar opposites (viewed as fields
of opposing positive and negative energy) are considered together as a unity
in synthesis with their singular supporting zero-point field of origination
-- the conclusions derived therefrom are entirely correct (albeit, sometimes
paradoxical when looked at dualistically). Therefore, it is perfectly
reasonable for directly observed conditions of quantum particles to be
indeterminate, since the observed near infinitesimal quantum point and the
zero-point observer are on the same relative level of vibrational energy
field phase -- which produces disruptive particle-wave interference's. (Vide
the discussion of the projected "inquiray" on my ABC web site.)
The universe, therefore, is neither monistic nor dualistic -- whether in
pre-genetic abscondia or in post-genetic manifestation -- but both. And,
thus, the sum of the parts are always less than the whole... That, of course,
is the main misconception behind the failure of reductive science to explain
anything beyond metric material phenomena. In addition, the basis of thought
behind much of the soft sciences and materialistic philosophies, as well as
some religious philosophies are similarly misconceived, and subject to
continued disagreements based on opinions generated from one's choice of
either monistic or dualistic points of view, or in some trinitarianist
religious views, because of the falsely perceived separation of the monistic
source (e.g., as a personal God or "Creator") from the dualistic "Creation."
If we carry this thinking further... Since "nothing can be created out of
nothing" (to quote Gautama, the Buddha) -- and to leave nothing to chance --
the Universe must start its existence (even prior to the "big bang") with an
abstract "ideation" based on experiential (or pre-constructive) information
contained, most likely, as holistically coded interference patterns within
the infinite degrees of momenta (or carried as transverse vibrations on the
infinite lines of force) of its initial abstract cyclic motion or "spinergy."
Therefore, the initial zero ("laya") point of origin must contain, in the
abstract motion surrounding it, all the genetic *information* -- later
condensed, so to speak, into the ultimate formation of the universe and all
the infinitude of parts and beings within it, from stars to fundamental
particles... Which would, of course, still take millions upon millions of
years to evolve in spiraling stages of interim parsimonious and analogous
developmental changes, one resting upon another (like scientific progress:-).
A unity in diversity, so to speak, that begins and ends periodically as a
result of analogous and corresponding cyclic patterns originating at the
zero-point of endlessly repeated initial expansion and ultimate absorption.
Thus, the universe *lives* in an eternal *Now* whose measurement of linear
time during its post genetic particular existence is dependent solely on the
changes brought about by the endless cycling of the initial and final
"spinergy" containing the patterns of information describing a complete
knowledge of itself and its infinite potentials for changing growth residing
eternally in the zero point (and subsequently remembered by its one and many
selves in accordance with their evolutionary progress up the scale of life).
This would imply that human beings are the microcosmic mirror of the
macrocosm, and that from beginning to end, everything in the universe is
conscious, and imbued with *life*... And that all elements of substantial
(three and seven fold field) existence are fundamentally one entity, whose
individualized parts are linked together through their local ray of
individualization originating at the nonlocal zero-point. Therefore, as the
esoteric religionists or occultists might say, "All (referring to the
relative duality and diversity) is in God (referring to the absolute unity)
and God is in all"... Or, "The Universe (as a fundamental trinity) has its
center everywhere and it's circumference nowhere."
Thus, this initial point of origin, and its informational and energetic
content, can only have the nature of *spin* or non-polar and nonlocal
abstract motion (of infinite energy) circling (or cycling) around a zero
point of absolute inertia... Later, to be reflected in every zero point of
phenomenal space. When such motion, starting from the zero point, is
expanded (occultists say "emanated") multidimensionally, from infinitesimal
abstract space to infinite phenomenal space, In order to maintain it's
continued existence as an all surrounding field of primal zero-point energy
(ZPE), its initial and all following lines of force must periodically return
to and through the zero point twice -- in what can be pictured as a
continuing three cycle vortectical spiral pattern that ultimately (due to
spin on the polar axis), forms two inner spherical fields of opposite
polarity within one surrounding spherical field (like twin bubbles within a
surrounding bubble)... Thus, represented as a duality emanating from a
singularity to form a trinity
This process, due to the nature of the infinitely smeared out nonlocal zero
points throughout phenomenal space, continues (coadunatively) on down within
each spherical field -- which, in seven such steps, based on the seven fold
phase aspects of the cycle of initial abstract motion (note the seven phases
of the changes inherent in a sine wave) -- ultimately reaches the stage of
physical phenomena represented by our metric space-time continuum. Although,
time is not to be considered in this theory as a dimension, but simply as a
measure of change, whose metric depends solely on the frequency of the triune
field of experiential action in which it is measured.
To make this, perhaps a bit clearer, such frequency would extend in seven
phases, from near infinite frequencies and infinitesimal wavelengths on the
higher plane(s) (or field phases) of energy closer to the zero-point, to the
finite frequency spectrums of the lower plane(s) of energy in the metric
space of our present existence (which science can directly or inferentially
examine). It might be mentioned that it may be probable, based on E=mc^2,
that the velocity of light starting on the next level of frequency phase
adjacent to the electromagnetic spectrum, would increase in each preceding
phase on the three and seven fold field within field chain by the power of 2
-- e.g., on the mental plane, the speed of thought and the associations of
memory might be c^2^2.
This is the basis of the synthesis of a duality within a trinity that extends
through all levels of phenomenal existence, from the ultimate subtleties of
the zero-point energy fields through the less subtle fields of mind, memory,
vital energy, emotional energy, etc., to the gross fields of metric space,
electromagnetic radiant energy and particulate mass-energy. In this view,
consciousness and matter are simply two aspects of the primal source that is
everywhere and in everything... "In coadunation but not in
consubstantiality," to quote the occultist H. B. Blavatsky... Whose seminal
work, The Secret Doctrine - The Synthesis of Science, Religion and
Philosophy, 1888 (which I suggest all modern scientists study in depth)
presages all the currently incomplete theories of modern and post modern
physics and cosmology, and synthesizes them into one grand unified theory of
everything, of which the above described zero-point energy field theory (I
call "Astro Biological Coenergetics") is a modern interpretation of its root
symbolic teachings. There appears to be much in common with current
Superstring/Membrane theories.
Leon Maurer
leonmaurer@aol.com (not the monitor of this forum:-)
http://tellworld.com/Astro.Biological.Coenergetics/
http://users.aol.com/unIwldarts/uniworld.artisans.guild/einstein.html
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