RE: Trans-Persnal Psychology -- its coverage == Antiquity of Man -- Modern evidence needed, please
Jan 28, 1999 12:26 PM
by Dallas TenBroeck
Jan 28th 1999
Many thanks - my brush with "Trans-personal Psychology" had only
showed that they dealt more with the "psychic" [ Kama and Astral
side ]. The really "SPIRITUAL" [ HIGHER-MANAS and BUDDHI ]
remained to be identified.
It is my opinion that the impersonal application of LAW - fair,
just, impersonal and enormously sensitive - to all beings as to
man's psyche was yet to be discussed scientifically
(impartially) - as this has often been regarded as the field of
ethics, morals and therefore "religious."
Am I correct still on that ?
Also my belief that Theosophy alone, so far, gives a
comprehensive explanation of the inter-relation of ethico-mental
to personal-psychic, and thence to physico-action areas.
On another subject: Archaeology and Anthropology
I need some help in up-dating the SD, if it is available and if
anyone has some information.
I have been reading FORBIDDEN ARCHAEOLOGY by CREMO and
THOMPSON-reminds me of Charles Fort's evidence and E.
Velikovsky's, these, and also, on Sphinx by West and Shwallager
Do you, or anyone in the group have some views on the relations
and comparison of Theosophical chronology and dating as given in
SD II (mainly), and geological, archaeological, paleographical
and paleontological sciences - a link or up-date to what HPB
De Quatrefages, for instance discusses the average volume of the
human brain (about 90 cubic inches) with that of the cranial
capacity of the large Apes (about 35 cubic inches) and inquires
if the tracing by hypothesis of a link is reasonable. SD II 661
Ape-man likeness is exaggerated SD II 56fn 87fn 645-6 651 662
SD II 667-8 681-2
I also found the following references in SD I and II
Apes more likely to descend from man SD II 287-8 646 666-7 682
Man not descended from apes SD I 186 190-1 II 87fn
Atavism & man's stature SD II 749
Anatomy of Apes & Man compared SD II 87fn 287 315fn 665fn 666-8
Apes begotten by mindless men SD I 190 II 189 193 678 689 717
>From 3rd Race Men in this Round SD II 185 262-3 728-9
Man an indirect ancestor SD II 289 717
Man lived before mammals SD II 155 749
Chasm between Ape and Man SD I 190 II 189 190 665fn 720 729
"Is there a common ancestor ?" SD II 185 189 258 187-8 634 674
Apes show no development SD II 682fn
Semi-astral in their beginning SD II 689
Ape-like forms evolved in the 3rd ROUND SD II 186-7 688fn 729
Emanated by the Lunar Pitris SD I 180-1 190
Man in the 3rd ROUND SD I 188-9 II 57fn 185-7 261-2 730
Unnatural cross-breeds SD I 183-4 II 201fn 261-2
Thanks in advance,
> From: Peter Merriott
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 1999 8:03 AM
> Subject: RE: After-Death Bliss
In a recent post you wrote:
> I do not think that modern psychology considers
> the immortality of the Spirit/Soul, and therefore
> the states that Theosophy describes are unknown,
> though possibly suspected by some psychologists.
Dallas, I just wanted to point to a small gleam of light with
psychology. In the main I agree that your observations are
However there has been an emerging and now growing force in
the last 40 years or more, that is dedicated to the study of
and the highest potential in the individual. It largely goes
heading of Transpersonal Psychology. The term "trans" being used
differently by different psychologist there is still a general
that the aims of transpersonal psychology are:
"... concerned with the study of humanity's highest potential,
and with the
recognition, understanding, and realization of unitive, spiritual
transcendent states of consciousness."
(Lajoie & Shapiro)
"Transpersonal experiences may be defined as experiences in which
of identity or self extends beyond (trans) the individual or
encompass wider aspects of humankind, life, psyche or cosmos."
While many of the writers, researchers, psychologists and
tend to based in the USA, I understand that the American
Association(?) still does not acknowledge the validity of
psychology enough to offer it formal recognition. However, here
the British Psychology Society agreed the creation of a new
Section for Transpersonal Psychology about three years ago.
While this may
seem a small move to us as Theosophists, this is a major leap
forward in the
> As I understand it, modern psychology does not
> deal with these feelings, emotions or thoughts
> in the same way as Theosophy does, and therefore
> it has a rather non-moralistic approach.
Many psychologists and therapists in the field of 'trans' argue
that we can
only begin to make sense of consciousness, peoples experiences
difficulties in life through an understanding of the 'ancient
traditions' especially those concerned with the 'mystical and
path' that is common to all the major religions.
In the field of transpersonal psychotherapy (a cumbersome name!)
approaches to helping people based on the understanding that the
is essentially a spiritual being that *has* a personality. Also
fundamental importance in this work is the use of the
there is a 'Self' and the need for the 'Soul' / ego to come into
with that 'Self' and the impersonal spiritual laws that are the
basis of our
lives. So, we can see an attempt to acknowledge three streams of
consciousness and being in the person - Self, Soul, and
Personality. This is
quite extraordinary in the field of psychology.
So, Dallas, I probably haven't communicated the above very well
as I only
want to say a little bit about it and not divert the list onto
and 'therapy' topics. Transpersonal psychology still has a long
way to go
but it is a growing influence and a vital one in its field. The
it exists at all I find very hopeful for the future.
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